Dear Tony,

Yes, I do. A few days ago I drafted a posting about notation. In the
end I didn't send it, because I thought other people had already
covered the topic, and the thread had lost its way. However, I'll
send it now after all, because it touches on your question.

Unsent message:

Unfortunately the Byrd thread has gone off at a tangent, discussing
the relative merits of staff notation and tablature. As I see it,
musical notation has two purposes:

1) To record musical sound;
2) To enable a musician to recreate sound.

Staff notation is more concerned with the former, and notates pitch.
The musician thinks how that sound may be recreated on his
instrument, and then sings or plays it.

Tablature is more concerned with the latter, skipping the idea of
pitch, and going straight to the idea of reproducing the sound on an
instrument, i.e. giving details of which frets and strings are to be
used.

Both systems eventually overlap in their function. With time a
musician will associate certain pitches with the strings and frets
of his instrument, so staff notation eventually becomes a sort of
tablature. I happily read the alto clef to play a tenor viol - with
luck my fingers go straight to the right place - but I would
struggle with the same clef on a classical guitar, where the
association of clef and fingerboard has not been established.

Similarly, with practice, tablature letters or numbers may become
associated with pitch, assuming the tuning is a familiar one. Thus I
can read French tablature in vieil ton straight onto the piano.

Music for the lute, guitar, and other string instruments, has been
notated in various ways. New notations emerge to satisfy the needs
of musicians. For example, in the 15th century lutenists were no
different from other musicians (pace keyboard players), and read
from staff notation. Jon Banks has shown that the music from the
Segovia manuscript (notated in staff notation) was almost certainly
written with lutes in mind. Staff notation is usually preferable for
single-line melodies, especially with rhythms as complex as those in
those late 15th-century sources.

Tablature comes into its own with polyphonic music, where a lutenist
tries to sustain two or more voices. It is no coincidence that lute
tablatures appeared at a time when lutenists were trying to play
complex polyphonic music.

There are, of course, many other notations apart from staff notation
and tablature. Neither of those systems is suitable for notating
strumming on the guitar, which is why alfabeto notation was
invented.

One advantage staff notation has over tablature is its ability to
suit all instruments. The music published by Tielman Susato in his
dance collection of 1551 is thought to have been compiled with
crumhorns in mind, yet Susato writes that it is suitable for all
instruments. I would add, suitable for lutes too. Music doesn't have
to be written in tablature before you are allowed to play it on the
lute.

One tablature which was intended for different instruments is
Spanish keyboard tablature, where each note of the diatonic scale is
given a number. This system was used by Venegas de Henestrosa
primarily, one supposes, for keyboard, although he says his
collection of music is for keyboard, harp, or vihuela. It includes
at least one fantasy by Francesco da Milano, which had been written
for lute (or viola da mano?), alongside pieces which are more
suitable for a keyboard instrument.

Coincidentally a similar system of notation by numbers is commonly
used in the East, from serious gamelan music in Malaysia, to pop
music in Hong Kong.

Best wishes,

Stewart McCoy.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Chalkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Historical pitch (was lute notation)



> P.S. Does anyone else who dabbles in different instruments
experience the
> same phenomenon as I do, one example of which is that I can play
the gamba
> from alto clef, but I can't read it on the keyboard?
>
> TC




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