Matanya, An Austrian, Rodolfo [sic!] Soutscheck [sic!!!] trained the Florentine soccer team in 1939. So keep you sticky moneycounting fingers away from Arthur (ever a gentleman). RT
From: "Matanya Ophee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Arthur Ness wrote: > > >I even know an Irish fantasia by Leonardo what'is name? that has a > >harmonic progression very similar to the introduction to Beethoven's > >Second Symphony. Alas it's in that Danish collection of guitar > >music, and many accidentals are left out. Also in D minor/major. The > >guitarist/copyist probably used staff notation as a kind of "aide > >memoire" for what was essentially playing by ear. Even though many > >wrong notes were written on the page, his fingers probably went to > >the correct frets. > > > > I found the piece. It's "Recollections of Ireland" by Leonardo Schultz > >(Op.41). It's RiBs ms244c in that immense collection of guitar music at the > >Royal Library in Copenhagen. You can download it here: > All that is very good information, but at the same time, it is a > misrepresentation. This information was first published on line in 1997 here: > > http://www.orphee.com/irish.htm > > A full discussion of the pro and cons of the fingering issues here > was also published here: > > http://www.orphee.com/sten.HTM > > At the time, Arthur Ness expressed a few critical ideas about this on > line edition in the RMCG new group. Obviously he knew about this > edition first hand and for him to pretend today that he just found > out the R&BS availability of the J.G. Holm abschrift, without > acknowledging the real source of his knowledge on this subject, me, > is not exactly copacetic. > > As for the availability of this music in Copenhagen, of course I know > all about that. I published the complete catalogue of that > collection, compiled by its curator Jytte Torpp Larson and edited by > Peter Danner who needs no introduction here, already in 1989. > > One thing always baffled me and that is Arthur's reference to Schulz > as a "Leonardo". Not the first time, BTW. On the various occasions I > asked him to back up his reference with some documental evidence, I > did not get a satisfactory answer. Leonhard Schulz was Austrian, born > in Vienna, was a protege of Moscheles and in all the available early > 19th century sources he is always referred to as Leonhard. If Arthur > knows something I do not, I would certainly appreciate the information. > > > Matanya Ophee > Editions Orphe'e, Inc., > 1240 Clubview Blvd. N. > Columbus, OH 43235-1226 > Phone: 614-846-9517 > Fax: 614-846-9794 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.orphee.com > http://www.livejournal.com/users/matanya/ > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
