Arthur Ness Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:34:27 -0700 >That information is also given in the notes >to Paul's CD.
Glad to know that you obtain your musicological information from CD liner notes. I suspected as much, but now you confirmed it. Thank you. >We know the Codice Lauten-Buch is not lost or destroyed >because the current owner hired an Italian >lutenist to give a private recital in his home. He >played directly from the original manuscript, which is so >famous it would be easy to spot. Who are the "we" in this statement? the Royal Ness We? What you seem to know, and to repeat here shamelessly, is nothing more than unsubstantiated hearsay. You do not not know who the putative current owner is, you do not know who was this alleged Italian lutenist, you do not know when and where this supposed concert took place, and you cannot even cite one single living lutenist who would swear to have been present when this event took place. >Matanya Ophee persists in perpetuating the >story on this list and in his reprint that Tuffolo >(Chilesotti's grand nephew) and >Bussandri (his grandson) have declared that the original >has not survived. I doubt they ever made such a claim. Not only they, but also your friend Dinko Fabris. And your doubts about my statements, as much as you are entitled to them, can be easily refuted. For example, you once expressed the doubt that the entire repository of Francesco microfilms, first collected by John Ward and the one you used to make up your Francesco book 35 years ago, was given to me by John and is now in my possession. You doubt that is true? then come on over to my house and take a look. Too far? you can ask somebody who lives closer to come and check. There are a few members of this list who live practically around the corner and would be happy to verify this for you. The statements made in my edition where written by Toffolo himself, and approved for publication by Bussandri. If you doubt this is true, why don't you ask them? >How would they know the fate of a rare and valuable book >that was sold nearly a century ago, before either >wasborn, and has been in >private hands ever since? Good question. Perhaps you could now tell us how do _you_ know that, since you too was not even born then? > And I doubt either has any >particular interest in lute music, or moves in the >Italian lute community. And the relevance of this is what? Toffolo is the author of the latest and most complete biography of Oscar Chilesotti, and also the author of the preface to my edition of the Codex. Heis also a prolific writer on many relevant subjects and his articles are currently published in il Fronimo. Bussandri is the owner of the Chilesotti museum. So whether they are directly involved in Italian lute circles, the fact remains that they are directly involved in all affairs concerning Oscar Chileostti. Of course, you do not doubt that Dinko Fabris has any particular interest in lute music, or moves in the Italian lute community. Or do you? >It is a "Codice Lauten-Buch." By leaving out the >largest word on the title page, Lauten-Buch, Ophee is >suppressing the information that the book is >German (actually Bavarian, where Italian tablature was >in use). The reasons for eliminating this superfluous marketing ploy by the Breitkopf & Haertel publishing company from the title was carefully explained in my edition. The text of the title page is not serial, but parallel. >Unfortunately the reviewer in the current issue of >_The_Lute_ was taken in by this, and mistakenly writes >that it is a lost Italian manuscript.<sigh> Some people in this lute world are not easily taken in by your silly delusions and require more than just your word for anything. As long as all you can provide is unsubstantiated hearsay and rumors, responsible writers will ignore you. >In any event, until a facsimile appears, Dick Hoban's >tablature edition for Lyre Press will serve most >lutenists. Certainly will. And as for the likelihood of another Forni facsimile appearing: I doubt that very much. Not today. I actually considered doing a facsimile, since I own a pristine copy of the original 1890 edition. But the costs of printing such a book today are such that publishing it today is only possible if the price to the end-user would be someplace around and beyond the space station. Not going to happen. I am not a suicidal publisher, and neither is Forni. And if you doubt what I say, try and obtain an estimate from a printer. Many commercial printers in the US enable you to obtain estimates on line. Just give them the dimensions of the book, number of pages, type of binding and number of copies you want to print. And it is not going to serve lutenists any better than my book. >It also has updated information (missing in Ophee's >book, although he owns Dick's edition) giving the >correct titles and composer attributions for many of the >anonymous pieces. My book gives a precise citation of the Hoban book. If I reproduced any of the information contained in there, you would have accused me of plagiarism. Right? Matanya Ophee Editions Orphe'e, Inc., 1240 Clubview Blvd. N. 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