Dear David,

Yes, I am out here, but I have been unable to follow messages on the
list for a while, because I have been very busy. I clicked on your
message, because I spotted the word Paston.

The three Paston lute manuscripts in the British Library have their
contents listed in the relevant British Library catalogues. I have
my own lists somewhere at home. The Tenbury copy is now in the
Bodleian Library in Oxford. There is a published catalogue of the
Tenbury manuscripts, listing the contents. I have a pretty ancient
photocopy of an old type-written catalogue of the pieces in the book
at the Royal College, which, as far as I know, is not published.

Yes, there are intabulations of music by Victoria. All I would ask
is, why do you want to see the Paston intabulations? There are some
interesting aspects to the Paston books, but the pieces are (for the
most part) just literal intabulations with the highest voice
missing, presumably to be sung. If you want to perform a piece by
Victoria, or anyone else for that matter, you might as well make
your own intabulation from the score.

The disadvantage of using Paston's intabulations is that you end up
with quite a dense texture, often unnecessarily awkward to play.
There are not many mistakes, but occasionally what Paston has
doesn't match the vocal score exactly, particularly with regard to
accidentals. Paston tends to be more modern, if that's the right way
of saying it, in that he adds an odd sharp or two here and there, to
notes which would not have been sharp when the piece was performed
years previously. He also irons out ancient cadences with a sixth,
and modernises them by adding in a leading note.

All the lute tablature in the five extant books is in Italian lute
tablature, although we know from Paston's will that he had music in
French tablature too. All the French stuff is now lost.

There is an important article on Paston by Philip Brett, and there
are a couple by me: one in _The Lute_, and the other in _Early
Music_. I'm afraid I don't have the exact details to hand, but I
could look them up, if you'd like me to.

All the best,

Stewart.


----- Original Message -----
From: "LGS-Europe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lute Net" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Paston Lute Books Content list?


> Dear Arthur, and others listening in that might help (Stewart, are
you out
> there?)
>
> I'll go the library later this week to see if they have the
microfilm. In
> the mean-time, is there a list of the content or something
similarly helpful
> of the Paston books? They seems like many pages to browse.
>
> David
>
>
> *****************************************
> David van Ooijen
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>
>
>
>
>
> > David says that there are definitely pieces by Victoria in the
Paston Lute
> > Books.  Paston is the subject of a number of papers at a Byrd
conference
> > at Duke University some time in the near future. Paston was a
recusant.
> > Here is the URL (see the abstracts):
> >
> > http://www.duke.edu/music/events/byrd.html
> >
> > ajn
> >  On 28 Oct 2005 at 16:33, Arthur Ness wrote:
> >
> >  > Dear David,
> >  >
> >  > These are three of the Edward Paston Lute Books. There are
five books
> >  > (see end).  That is where I thought you might find works by
Victoria.
> >  > But I looked through my list and could not find him.  Perhaps
he is
> >  > there, but not identified.  Paston must have had Spanish
connections.
> >  > Some of the rubrics are in Spanish, and the book uses Italian
> >  > tablature.
> >  >
> >  > Now for British music manuscripts, there is an important
series that
> >  > has microfilms of almost everything.  Many good libraries
will have
> >  > the series, including (I would expect) the Gemeentemuseum.
The three
> >  > you mention are also in the LSA Microfilm Library.  Here is
the title
> >  > of the series:
> >  >
> >  > For 24246-7:
> >  >                           Music manuscripts from the great
English
> >  >                           collections, Series IV, Part 2.
Polyphonic
> >  >                           music before c.1640, Section B
(beginning).
> >  >                           Brighton, Sussex : Harvester
Microform,
> >  >                           1983. Reels 20-29 + 1 guide (77 p.)
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > For 31992:
> >  >                           Music manuscripts from the great
English
> >  >                           collections, Series IV, Part 2.
Polyphonic
> >  >                           music before c.1640, Section B
(continued).
> >  >                           Brighton, Sussex : Harvester
Microform,
> >  >                           1983. Reels 30-37 + 1 guide (77 p.)
> >  >
> >  >      Thanks for searching HOLLIS Catalog
> >  >      (http://holliscatalog.harvard.edu/)
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > These are the EDWARD PASTON LUTE BOOKS:
> >  > London, British Library, Add. 29246, Add. 29247, Add. 31992
> >  > London, Royal College of Music, Ms 1964
> >  > Tenbury, St. Michael's, Ms. 340
> >  >
> >  > Anne Burns:  You may wish to update the LSA Catalogue with
the name of
> >  > the manuscripts.
> >  >
> >  > ajn
> >  >   ----- Original Message -----
> >  >   From: LGS-Europe
> >  >   To: Lute net
> >  >   Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:09 AM
> >  >   Subject: [LUTE] Victoria in BL Add 29246 / 29247 / 31992
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >   Does anybody have copies to share of these manuscripts? I'm
> >  >   interested in the pages with music by Victoria arranged for
voice
> >  >   and lute/vihuela. In the MSS only the lute/vihuela parts
are given.
> >  >   Juan Carlos Rivera used these manuscripts for his cd with
counter
> >  >   Carlos Mena (Harmonia Mundi). Great disc!
> >  >
> >  >   David





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