I wonder if any of those smaller theorbos could have
been "converted" to archlutes?  We know that the
gigantic instruments must have been be tuned with
re-entrant tuning, but perhaps we just assume that
surviving instruments of a smaller size simply are
archlutes rather than theorbos.  Thus our data of
contemporary instrument sizes would automatically be
faulty from the get go.  

I must confess that I'm not at all familiar with
typical sizes of what we call archlutes in the 17th
century, nor am I accusing anyone of scholastic
negligence.  Just throwing out a thought...


CW

--- Howard Posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lynda's article is interesting, though she seems
> vague about exactly 
> how small an instrument would be too small by her
> lights.  The article 
> also strikes me as mostly conclusion without much in
> the way of 
> intermediate premises.  Since it more or less begins
> with her 
> conclusion, it doesn't touch on two important areas?
> 
> Is the body of surviving instruments anywhere near
> large enough to be a 
> valid sample?  Or is the weight toward bigger
> theorbos just artifact, 
> something that has more to do with the state of the
> fossil record than 
> with historical practice?
> 
> There is no mention of pitch.  Buchenberg worked in
> Rome, and let's 
> assume that Roman pitch in his day was around A=392.
>  If his 98cm 
> string length was, in his view, optimum for Roman
> pitch, how would he 
> build an instrument meant to be played in Padua,
> Mantua, or Venice, 
> where pitch was around A=465?  It would either be
> the same size and 
> need much thinner strings (and therefore not
> optimum, or perhaps not 
> practical), be the same size with a different
> nominal pitch (the A 
> theorbo becomes a G theorbo), or be about 84% of the
> Roman theorbo's 
> length.  Sure enough, a surviving instrument by
> Pietro Raillich of 
> Padua has a fretted string length of 81 or 82 cm,
> just what you'd 
> expect given the pitch numbers I've just cited,
> which I think are more 
> or less accurate.  (I forget the name of the
> 17th-century writer who 
> said that there were five semitones in Italy --i.e.
> the lowest local 
> pitch was a major third lower than the highest --
> which is an even 
> bigger spread).  Paul O'Dette plays a Hasenfuss copy
> of that Raillich 
> instrument.  So do I, which is doubtless the only
> thing Paul and I have 
> in common as players.
> 
> HP
> 
> 
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