There are a couple of pictures of Pat O'Brien's right hand from the  
LSA site pictures of the Vancouver 2005 seminar:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Vancouver2005/ThumbUnder1-RS.jpg

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Vancouver2005/ThumbUnder2-RS.jpg

Pat plays everything including lute, Theorbo and classical guitar  
with and without nails. The pictures show how he manages his nails.

DS


On Nov 10, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Vance Wood wrote:

> The biggest problem you are going to have is the right hand.   
> Within that
> issue is the use of nails, wrist position and thumb position.  If  
> you hold
> your right hand out in front of you with the palm away from you,  
> you can see
> the obvious, there are two sides to the fingers, left and right.   
> (front and
> back do not apply here)  If you wish to keep nails for playing the  
> Guitar it
> is possible for you to play the Lute without nails if you adopt the  
> thumb
> under technique which requires your fingers to point more parralle  
> to the
> strings  and the thumb striking the strings inside the motion of the
> fingers.  In other words the fingers operate outside the motion of the
> thumb.  You often see beginers on the Guitar assume this position  
> naturally.
> This position allows the use of the right side surface of the  
> fingers to
> play the strings and also makes it far easier to activate both  
> strings in an
> individual course.  If you trim the nails really short on the right  
> side of
> the fingers you can play the Lute in the above position.  You can, in
> theory, leave the nails long on the left side of the fingers for  
> playing the
> Guitar with the thumb out, wrist bent perpendicular to the strings  
> position
> used by most Classical Guitar players.
>
> To try to put this in a different light that might make it more  
> clear look
> at it this way.  In Guitar position if you close up your hand your  
> thumb
> will be on the outside of what is now a fist.  In thumb under Lute  
> position
> if you close up the hand your thumb will be folded under or inside the
> fingers.  Garry is correct understand and accept the fact that the  
> Lute is
> not a Guitar, it is a totally different instrument with just enough
> similarities to the Guitar to make it tempting to play like a  
> Guitar.  Do
> yourself a favor-----don't do it.  Approach the Lute like something  
> from
> Mars, something totally alien and unfamiliar.  If you learn it as a
> different instrument in the begining you will be further ahead five  
> years
> from now than if you try making it like some odd shaped Guitar.  If  
> you go
> the Guitar route eventually you will encounter that point where you
> understand that you are not getting a good sound out of the Lute  
> and must
> change your technique if you are to improve.



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