>From Lundberg's Historic Lute Constuction: Wendelio Venere (Wendelin Tieffenbrucker): Padua, flourished from 1560 to 1620. The first Wendelin Tieffenbrucker--- whose name the Italians apparently could not pronounce and thus became Vendelio Venere--- probably apprenticed and eventually took over his father Leonardo's shop in Padua in the middle of the century. He died before 1591, but the Venere label continued to appear in lutes made by his successors (his nephew Christophoro Eberle and great-nephew Wendelin Eberle) until at least 1611. More lutes survive from this workshop than any other, with many examples in fine original condition; also theorbos and bowed instruments were made.
Still the dates you question fall beyond the time period of this family of makers and still reinforcing my position that the manuscript fragments and their subsequent dates, post date them being from the original Tieffenbrucker group, but probably the result of a later repair or conversion. Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Narvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lute list" <[email protected]>; "Christopher Challen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Magnus Tieffenbrucker > There was a very interesting article about how Magnus Tieffenbrucker and his > relation with Vendelio Venere - they were, in fact, the same person - in the > LS journal of '96, I believe, by Kiraly. A must read. > > As ever, > > B > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Vance Wood" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi Christopher: > > > > From Lundbergs book the information I found is the the Tiffenbrucker(s) > > between 1570 and 1610. What you are probably looking at is the material > > used during a later conversion or repair. The manuscript you mention was > > from a period after Tiffenbrucker's work history by some fifty years or so. > > > > Vance Wood > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Challen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:15 AM > > Subject: [LUTE] Magnus Tieffenbrucker > > > > > > > Hello all aficionados of the lute, this is my first posting and so hope it > > reaches you ok. > > > > > > Could anybody tell me Magnus Tieffenbrucker's dates please, or any other > > details about him. I know he worked in Venice and I've seen instruments by > > him dating from the late 16th to early 17th centuries, but never any > > evidence of his birth and death dates. > > > > > > The reason I ask is because I'm working towards the publication of > > twenty-seven fragments of a Venetian music manuscript, an Esther Oratorio > > written between 1680 & 1710, which I found glued inside the back of one of > > his lutes in order to stabilise numerous openings in the ribs. Knowing > > Tieffenbruker's dates, or at least when he was active, would be a great > > help. > > > > > > The realisation of the manuscript (in which Kenneth Mobbs (Mobbs Keyboard > > Collection http://www.mobbsearlykeyboard.co.uk/) has done the lion's share > > of the work) has so far yielded several minutes of very fine music: two > > ritornellos for seven instruments and two arias (one for castrati) with > > basso continuo, the recitatives have yet to be realised. > > > > > > I can't help but notice the underlying interest of the lute group leans > > heavily towards the therapeutic value of music, I'd like to say that working > > towards the publication of this music manuscript often leaves me feeling > > stressed. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Chris (Challen) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
