Dear David,

Thanks for posting the picture again.  I think it is also in Robbins-Landon, 
Haydn: Documentary Studies.

That is an engraving published in London ca. 1800 by Monzani & Co. and shows 
Willloughbye Bertie, Fourth Earl of Abingdon.(seated), and an anonymous 
lutenist.  Abingdon was among those who brought Haydn to London, and for him 
(he was an amateur flutist) Haydn wrote the trios for 2 flutes and 'cello (nice 
pieces, also first publ. by Monzani & Co.).

Later Abingdon and Haydn collaborated on a collection of catches and glees 
(also publ. Monzoni).  Haydn wrote the harpsichord or harp accompaniments.  
Could this be an idealized representation of their collaborastion?  If so, why 
isn't Haydn named?

Later editions of the engraving were identified as depicting Haydn (playing 
lute) inspiring Mozart (seated).  Guess sales were slow for a portrait of 
Bertie. (Perhaps after Bertie was imprisoned for slander.)

ajn.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Van Edwards 
  To: LGS-Europe 
  Cc: Lute net 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:13 AM
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Haydn with lute picture?


  Dear David,

  Well I referred to it but didn't include it in my little essay on the 
  Sharp Family by Zoffany. However, following your query, I've just now 
  added the Haydn picture as it's interesting and there are not that 
  many pictures of German baroque lutes around. Yhe relevant page is
  http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/dec98/month.htm

  Whether it actually shows either Mozart or Haydn is anyone's guess 
  but it's in the Mozarteum!

  The reproduction is not that great since I've taken it from a little 
  coffee table book called Mozart und seine Zeit published by Vollmer.

  I hope this helps

  Best wishes,

  David

  At 9:50 AM +0100 30/1/06, LGS-Europe wrote:
  >Is the painting of (supposedly) Haydn with a lute still on the net
  >somewhere? It used to be one of david van Edwards lutes of the months, but I
  >cannot seem to find it anymore. Suggestions (or private emailing to me)
  >anyone?
  >
  >David
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