Oh yes, Markus. Some Carl Weiss pieces (incl. Op. 2??) are listed in the
Breitkopf catalogue (1772, methinks).
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From: Arthur Ness
To: Markus Lutz
Cc: Tim Crawford ; Douglas Smith ; Lute Net ; Richard Stone
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:18 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Trio by Weiss
Dear Markus,
Carl Weiss is also mentioned in Gerber's lexicon, and in Fetis as well as
that autobiography by Dulon edited by Wieland. There is a microfilm edition in
a series on German literature. (I haven't been to the library, and so haven't
seen any of those.) Dunlon said that Weiss concertos (lost?) were old
fashioned.
I also found information in Rockstro's Treatise on the Flute (1889; rpt 1967)
and Eitner's Quellen-Lexikon. Many of his editions are listed in Frans
Vester's bibliography of flute music in the 18th century, an excellent piece of
work.
The flute Weisses were from Elsass (= Alsace??) whereas the lute family was
from Saxony. Surely it is a familiar German name. When I taught in Buffalo, our
voice teacher was Maria Weiss, who had a successful careeer on the German opera
stage. She also won a national award for her Gulaschsuppe. Wish I had the
recipe. To extend from Roman's citation German telephone information, there
are nearly two columns of Weisses in the Boston telephone directory.
--ajn.
----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Lutz
To: Arthur Ness
Cc: Tim Crawford ; Douglas Smith ; Lute Net ; Richard Stone
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: A Trio by Weiss
Arthur,
many thanks for this!
The trio Donatella referred to is exactly the one, that you give.
Opus 3 is also in Kopenhagen: http://img.kb.dk/ma/giedde/gs01-25bm.pdf
Do you have any further literature on these Weisses? Are they in any
way related to the lutenists Weiss?
Best regards
Markus
Arthur Ness schrieb:
> There were two C. Weisses, father and son flutists born in Muhlhausen.
Both travelled in Italy, and later resided in London. The father Carl
(1738-1795) published two books of "Six Trios" for flute, violin and bass
(London, 1772, 1776). These were extremely popular and later editions appeared
in London, Paris, Lyons, Brussels, Leipzig, etc. One of those prints may be
the source of the trio Donatella found in manuscript. The father was flutist to
George III (!!). He also had some association with the Earle of Abingdon.
Remember him? He's the guy who sat in "for Mozart" while Haydn played the
lute.<g> We discussed it a few weeks ago.
>
> The son, Carl (or Charles) N. Weiss (1777-1845) was a prolific composer,
and left over 100 works for his instrument. Many concertos, studies, potpourris
and variations. There's a rather long article on the younger musician in
Rockstro, with the pithy comment that CNW "composed a great quantity of not
very high-class music, most of which is now forgotten."
>
> Is this the trio Donatella referred to?
>
> http://img.kb.dk/ma/giedde/gs03-09m.pdf
>
> It is the father's Opus 2, No. 1. It was copied by Werner Hans Gieddes
(1756-1812), Kapellmeister in Copenhagen.
>
> Yes, I am closing down the CompuServe account. --ajn.
> P.S. Does anyone know what happened to Madame Thibault's "Weiss =E0 Rome"
manuscript? It seems NOT to be in the Biblioth=E8que nationale. What does
LL455 mean?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas Smith
> To: Tim Crawford ; Arthur Ness
> Cc: Richard Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:47 PM
> Subject: Fw: Fw: Fw: [LUTE] A Trio by Weiss
>
>
> Art, Tim, and Richard,
>
> Markus knew about the "new" Weiss ensemble, which he found last year. H
> thinks it's too late to be SLW or JSW. Maybe C. Weiss, whoever that is.
>
> Doug
>
> from Markus Lutz:
>
> Das "neue" Weiss-Ensemblewerk hatte ich bereits im vergangenen Jahr
> ausfindig gemacht. Es ist aber wohl eher nicht (vorsichtig ausgedruck)
ein
> Werk von J.S. oder S.L. Weiss. Dazu ist es zu modern. Wahrscheinlich
passt
> es eher zu C.Weiss, von dem es einige Werke fur Fl=F6te und Basso gibt.
Wer
> dieser C. Weiss ist, konnte mir aber noch keiner sagen.
>
>
> PS Incidentally, Arthur, is your compuserve address still valid, or
should I
> substitute the verizon?
>
>
>
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