Hi Goeran, Let me see if I can straighten some of this out for you. Maybe I'll do it intwo messages. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Crona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] F. da Milano [was: P H Lang: Music in Western Civilization]
> Dear Arthur, > > after reading your message below, I re-read your > introductory text, and > found a few things that are still somewhat unclear to > me: > > 1. The viola in Sultzbach's title is now definitely > considered as being a > "viola da mano" no? Yes, viola da mano seems to be the preferred plucked instrument in Spanish-ruled Naples. And probably in many other part of Italy as well. It's the instrument named on Bartolomeo lieto Panhormitano's Dialogo Quarto (and elsewhere). > What about the assertions that F. also played the viol > (bowed), We didn't understand the meaning of "viola" in the 60s. But one of the portraits said to be of Francesco shows the scroll of the pegbox of a viol. He is said to have been proficient on a number of [unnamed] instruments. As you know, one of his books was intabulated from ensemble music. For viols? For lutes? > and having held a post as "organist at the Duomo of > Milan around > 1530", do they still stand? I thought he was organist at the Duomo of Piacenza. That's mentioned in a poem, iirc. But I see that I did not write that. we know a lot more about Francesco thanks to Franco Pavan's dissertation and his archival studies. Francesco was a minor cleric, until he married, that is, he was canon with prebends at San Novaro in Broglio in Milan. That also suggests proficiency in organ. His brother replaced him. > (Concerning the "lost" Francesco intabulations of > vocal polyphony, you > surely know that the "Crainte et Espoir by Baston is > found V. Galilei's > "Fronimo 1584" (erroneously attributed to P. Guerrero > in the index, but > specified as being by F. in the text)). Yes, I do not know why I did not include it. I knew it was there, and even had a film of the treatise. > 2. "Valerio Dorico's Libro primo of 1566 (66D1), which > was advertised as > edited by Francesco's "discipulo," Perino Florentine > degli Organi, has come > down in a single imperfect copy lacking all but the > first four folios". > Brown asserts, that this work was a reprint of 1547/2. Brown is mistaken. The Dorico print is EARLIER.<g> You don't have to be Einstein to tell that 1566 is earlier than 1547. A complete copy has since surfaced, so we now have a complete copy of that very important print. My former student Rick Falkenstein discovered the correct chronology. (With my acting as "catalyst."<g>) > 3. Bernardo Monzino, Francesco's brother keeps popping > up in my > subconsciousness. His name was Bernardino. You know of an attribution to "Bernardo Monzino? Monzino (alone) could also be Francesco. And there is a reference to Francesco da Milano detto "il Monzino." > Do we know anything more about this brother of > Francesco's? There are two pieces in the Siena Ms. > that are identical. One > is ascribed to B.M., the other to Monzino. Could that > piece, ascribed to > Monzino be by him? Bernardo Monzino doesn't seem to be a logical name. BM Florentine Gentleman does. Monzino is a nickname after the place where they were born, the town of Monza near Milan. He was known as Sig. Bernardino de Canova. > Could he be the Bernardo who contributed at least 16 > vocal intabulations in Ms. mus. 266 (many unica)? > I did my damnedest to identify him. Some place he is called "Bernardo N." There are a lot of Bernardos back then, and most of them played lute. Don't see how FdaM's brother's music would have found its way into Mus Ms 266. The pieces are, I believe, unrelated to the Marco pieces which surround them. Bernardo N will have to remain an enigma. And I am not certain his pieces are related to the Marco repertory in Mus Ms 266, any way. There are also some unrelated German pieces, too. More latrer. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
