Not having kept close track of this thread I apologize in advance if I am 
repeating information here.

Please note that my comments are specifically in relation to 17th & 18th 
century Italian music.

With the change in musical style that occurred at the turn of the 17th 
century performers (and composers) were looking for an instrument with greater 
volume, which in the case of plucked stringed instruments, meant a larger 
vibrating 
soundboard and a correspondingly longer string length in order to accommodate 
this larger body size. As most on this list know, a gut g string will break 
at about 69-70 cm (A = 415). When you start using   g and a tuned instruments 
(the norm at the turn of the 17th cent. in Italy) with a fingerboard string 
length of 76 + cm you have no choice but to tune your first two strings down an 
octave.

While this might seem odd to some, remember that the function of a bass line 
was dramatically different during the first part of the 17th century than what 
it was in the 16th century and in the 18th century. It was not necessarily 
part of a "melodic fabric," it was often not ornate and often functioned as a 
harmonic fundamental that could easily be transposed up or down an octave 
without compromising the work in the slightest.   Don't misread what I am 
saying, 
certainly there are times in early 17th century music when the bass line has an 
integral melodic function, but much less so than in late 17th/early 18th 
century music.

This corresponds to the fact that number of publications that specify the use 
of "theorbo" or "chittarone" declines precipitously after 1650.   At this 
point most Italian publications begin to call for an archlute or "liuto" rather 
than the theorbo or chittarone.

At least for me, this means that in 18th century music I usually use an 
instrument without re-entrant tuning (or just the top string down), and in 17th 
century music a theorbo with both top strings down the octave.

The issue of the re-entrant tuning on a guitar is a very different subject. 
First it has noting to do with string length, and second it has nothing to do 
with bass lines...as has been pointed out it has all to do with campanella 
passages.   

But what constitutes "re-entrant" on a guitar? only the 5th course up? the 
5th & the 4th up? octaves only on the 4th? octaves on 4 & 5?   (which Sanz 
states is the norm in Spain.....is the only tuning ever designated in Spanish 
sources....and is called for in many Italian sources with campanella 
passages.....?)

Ahhh more food for thought....

R Savino

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