Dear Sean, This is the passage from Francesco da Milano's Ricercar 27:
|\ |\ |\ | | | ____________c_______d_______ _a_____b__|_______|____a__|_ ____a_____|_d_____|_b_____|_ _______c__|_c__b__|_c_____|_ _______a__|_______|_______|_ _d________|_c_____|_a_____|_ There is only one way to finger it, assuming you want to sustain the part-writing. It doesn't involve the left-hand thumb: |\ |\ |\ | | | ______________3c________4d_______ __a_____1b__|_________|_____a__|_ _____a______|_4d______|_1b_____|_ ________2c__|_1c__1b__|_2c_____|_ _________a__|_________|________|_ _3d_________|_2c______|__a_____|_ The chord at the beginning of the second bar is not difficult to play, as long as you get the little finger down on the 3rd course in advance, while playing the preceding chord. -o-O-o- It has been suggested, that the left-hand thumb could come in handy for this chord of F major: _c_ _d_ _d_ ___ ___ ___ d Unfortunately I cannot speak from experience, because I have an 8-course lute with low F available as an open string. However, someone with a 7-course lute might find it a useful way of playing that chord, especially if the neck of their lute is not wide at the nut end. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason? > Hello all, > > I don't want to get caught up in the thumb<-->no thumb debate on the > 6th course but there is another way out of the fingering dilemna of > Arthur's example from Francesco's Ricercar 27 (it also appears in a > Paladin' Milenesa Pavana m. 12-13 and probably elsewhere). > > First I finger (with the 1st finger already on the F#): > > 2(3)---- > -------- > 3(4)---- > 2(2)-1(1) > -------- > 2(2)---- > > The 2nd finger is a kind of hinge bar that when lifted off the 4th > course, the F# is then exposed. I'll confess I haven't tried the > wrap-around-thumb but it's not a position I feel comfortable in. > > Sean > On Nov 30, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Arthur Ness wrote: > > > I have put some more examples here, including two > > supposed Francesco portraits, and a musical example. > > And some other pictures. > > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/thumb.html > > > > ==ajn. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
