Dear John,

Many people on this list (myself included) have come to the lute via the 
classical guitar.  Because I had a friend who had made the same 
transition before me, I knew that when I started the lute I was going to 
change my RH technique completely, and that helped - I wasn't constantly 
comparing it to what I already knew.  I made a few notes on my pages 
about "thumb-under" technique, which you might find useful 
(www.luteshop.co.uk/rhtech.htm).

"Thumb-under" is simply the technique used by 16th C lute players, as 
documented in many paintings. It works extremely well for the music in 
question, but not so well for later music.  Once the lute started 
sprouting extra bass strings in the late 16th C, the thumb kept more to 
the basses.  It is also a question of the angle of the lute:  with the 
neck held almost parallel with the ground, and the arm coming around the 
end of the lute, the "thumb-under" position comes naturally.  With the 
neck held up at a steeper angle, the arm approaches the strings from 
above, more like a guitarist: then "thumb-out" position is more 
natural.  Once modern lute players discovered thumb-under, it was such a 
revelation they adopted it as a universal technique.  Now, thirty-odd 
years later, it is widely acknowledged that it is just as anachronistic 
to play baroque lute thumb-under as it had been to play renaissance lute 
thumb-out.  Thumb-out is more difficult, and I think we have some way to 
go before we really master it (though Nigel North seems to have sorted 
it out).  It is further complicated by the "correct" position of the 
hand being so close to the bridge, a position which usually yields 
disappointing results, whatever kind of strings are used.  But we're 
working on it.....

Just to reiterate Sean's advice about the little finger - it should rest 
lightly, not being forced in any way, and I don't think it's such an 
issue whether it rests on the soundboard or not.  It's almost a natural 
consequence of the hand/arm position in thumb-under technique.  By the 
way, you might find the photos on Jacob Heringman's website 
(www.heringman.com) illuminating.

Finally I would just like to emphasize that we're not talking about 
"improvements" of technique, just changes.  Thumb-under is perfect for 
16th C polyphony and allows more rapid passagework - it's not "inferior" 
or "more primitive".  If it was, you can be sure that the great 
lutenists of the 16th C would have abandoned it pretty quickly in favour 
of something which worked better.  When they *did* change their 
technique it was in response to the increased number of courses on the 
lute, changes in musical style, and other good reasons.

Good luck,

Martin




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