Like all lutes, theorboes were pitched according to size so as to get the 
best sound from the lowest fingered plain gut strings (usually 6th course on 
theorboes) whilst remaining within the working stress of the highest course 
(usually 3rd).  Accordingly your small theorbo (if existing then) of 80cm 
fingered string length would have been pitched considerably higher than 415 
(around 470/480): the breaking stress on a high octave 2nd course would 
therefore be exceeded. You can't have it both ways: either the instrument is 
pitched so low that the basses are not strong enough or so high that the 
highest pitched string breaks.
   
  The problem is that overwound strings allow smaller instruments to be tuned 
at a lower pitch for their size whilst still producing a reasonably strong 
bass. Since smaller instruments are easier to play  and closer to the lute, 
some choose to use such instruments: this, I presume, is for convenience rather 
than trying to reproduce something closer to what the 'Old Ones' would have 
expected and their auditors heard.  
   
  As said, this was covered earlier and you may care to look in the archives.  
Also see Lynda Sayce's comments on theorbo sizes on her website.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  "Martyn Hodgson" wrote:
[...] if we use a proper size instrument (ie not an implausible 'toy' 
theorbo), against the laws of physics.

Let's assume a string lenght of 80 cm. It's not a toy, but a theorbo usable 
for solo music (i.e. the Mantuan 18 courses instrument).
The 'breaking index' for gut is about 240 and I can calculate the highest 
frequency reachable for a gut string of a given lenght using this formula:

highest frequency = 240 / lenght in meters

that is

highest frequency: 240 / 0.8 = 300 Hz.

300 Hz. is a little lower than a 'e' at 415.

We also must consider that the tuning of the thorbo in G was not unusual: 
have a look in Praetorius, De Organographia, p. 27. Also Banchieri (L'organo 
suonarino, p. 43) give a G tuning with only the first string lowered.

So the octave stringing of a 2nd course is all but against the laws of 
physics!
Regarding the 'historical evidence', we mus suppose an alternative tuning, 
not only for Meli, but also for Pittoni.
Sometimes 'historical evidence' means a stroke of luck: I can't immagine the 
situation for baroque guitar stringing without the discovery of the small 
paper by Stradivari about the inversion of the octave strings...


Diego Cantalupi



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