I had no problem on the yahoo group site, but you need to log in or get a free account to log in.
I couldn't unravel the photo bucket site - I think that the spare character are just character codes for things like space and carriage return, but as I'd seen the pics, I didn't bother looking them up. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Pegs image problem > Is there a key to manually "cleaning up" these links to access the > images?? > I'd like to see these mechanical pegs, but I have had no success with the > links as given, nor with searches at the photo bucket site. > > Regards, > Leonard Williams > > On 9/30/07 5:05 AM, "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Henk >> Well, I see that that the image link is automatically garbled by =20= >> >> intervening letters and numbers. >> I can understand that this is a security against unwanted images. >> It would be possible to give a rule for removing these, but it is too >> =20= >> >> complex. >> The best thing is to ask Henk for his photos directly, should you be =20 >> interested. >> Regards >> Anthony >> >> Le 30 sept. 07 =E0 09:28, Anthony Hind a =E9crit : >> >>> Henk and Ed >>> The French Vihuelist considers that installing the new pegs =20= >> >>> =3D20 >>> does not make the peg-head more fragile. He argues that once they =20 >>> are =3D20=3D >>> >>> in place the lute undergoes much less strain than when at each =3D20 >>> tuning, we tend to force the peg home to hold it there. He also =20 >>> says =3D20 >>> that the pegs are not heavier than the original ones. Nevertheless, =20= >> >>> =3D20 >>> the surgery is invasive, and the aspect of the pegs, close to will >>> =3D20= >> >>> not be "authentic". The pleasure obtained in ease of tuning, =20 >>> however, =3D20=3D >>> >>> he assures us is very great. >>> >>> Henk sent photos that should allow anyone to view the =3D20 >>> process of installing the new pegs, to judge whether the it is =20 >>> worth it. >>> I don't know whether these photos can be viewed easilly. I have = >> =3D20=3D >>> >>> loaded them at two separate web pages. One is the French luth =20 >>> Yahoo =3D20 >>> page and may need a code, the other is Photobucket and should allow =20= >> >>> =3D20 >>> free viewing if the other doesn't work. It may be necessary to copy =20= >> >>> =3D20 >>> the address into your browser. >>> >>> 1) Henk's own lute's peghead showing classic lute pegs >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D1 >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D20 >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3Dview¤t=3D3DLuteHenkPakker800x600.jpg >>> >>> 2) Widening the peg holes >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D2 >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D20 >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3Dview¤t=3D3DLuteReamingHoles.jpg >>> >>> 3) The end piece of a peg >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3 >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D20 >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3Dview¤t=3D3Dmillingluteheads.jpg >>> >>> 4) Completely repegged lute >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D20 >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3Dview¤t=3D3DLutePeghedComplete.jpg >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D4 >>> >>> Anthony >>> >>> >>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3DE0 12:58, Anthony Hind a =3DE9crit : >>> >>>> Henk >>>> A vihuelist on the French list reports he has adapted these pegs = >> =3D >>> =3D20 >>>> himself for his vihuela (or rather vice versa) and tells us they =3D20 >>>> are very pleasant indeed. Only the price, 270 USD for 12 pegs, he >>>> =3D20= >> >>>> says, prevents him from equiping all his instruments. >>>> >>>> However, you do have to widen the peg-holes. The pegs themselve =3D20 >>>> screw into the hole, and some gluing is involved. Therefore, =20 >>>> having =3D20=3D >>> >>>> them fitted by a specialist, as you suggest, would seem much safer. >>>> >>>> However, perhaps, this still might weaken the peg-box structure; =3D20 >>>> and if your lute is an exact copy of a historic lute, the pegs may =20= >> >>>> =3D20 >>>> no longer look the part. Unless they can exactly match the outside =20= >> >>>> =3D20 >>>> shape. >>>> Fear that these pegs could perhaps be heavier than the originals, >>>> =3D20= >> >>>> which could effect the sound, has been contradicted by the =3D20 >>>> Vihuelist, who says they seem as light as his original pegs. >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> The explanations are here : >>>> http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/5743 >>>> >>>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3D3DE0 11:52, henk a =3D3DE9crit : >>>> >>>>> Interesting..? >>>>> >>>>> There are some enclosed foto's, if someone wants to see them let >>>>> =3D20= >> >>>>> me =3D3D20=3D3D >>>> >>>>> know. (Earlier I forewarded the mail with enclosures, but that >>>>> =3D3D20= >> >>>>> doesn't seem to work - with an empty message as result). >>>>> >>>>> Henk Pakker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: John Charles Herin >>>>> To: henk >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:10 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Lute Pegs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Henk: >>>>> >>>>> If you send my your pegs, of another set of your choice, I can =20 >>>>> fit =3D20=3D >>> >>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>> your heads to my mechanism. >>>>> >>>>> I can match the color of the outer shank to ebony or rosewood =3D3D20 >>>>> heads. The portion of the shank within the peg box wall will be =20 >>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>> black in either case. >>>>> >>>>> I have sold quite a few sets for lute. On customer Derek Bowers >>>>> =3D20= >> >>>>> of =3D3D20=3D3D >>>> >>>>> California, USA has over the years converted three instruments. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if I can help you. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Herin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> henk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to make them for (baroque) lutes as well...? =20 >>>>> (see =3D20=3D >>> >>>>> =3D3D20 >>>>> photo). >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Henk Pakker >>>>> The Netherlands >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
