Luca
You are quite right, but unless you are a professional, it is difficult to justify purchasing the number of instruments that someone like Jacob Heringman has at his disposition.

It could be that a single 6c intrument would be a better compromise than an 8c instrument, since even much Dowland can be played on such an instrument.

However, the compromise I made, was to obtain a 7c lute, but to have the older Gerle shape (the same one that JH used on his Sienna record) and to use gut diapasons. This does limit the sympathetic resonances of wire-wound basses, and keeps the voices reasonably clear, if less so than on a 6c lute. Thus when 5c and 4c are strung in octaves, it is acceptable for some of that Sienna repertoire, and when they are strung in unison, it is reasonable for later, up to 1600 music. In fact much of that music could be played with 5 and 4 octave stringing.

I notice that JH plays one fantasie from the Medici lute book on that same lute, but otherwise he does mainly use it for the few dance pieces of the manuscript.

I agree that this is still a compromise, and even in concert, when he could only bring one lute, JH brought his 6c Rutherford for all the Sienna music.

I am going to have to make a similar compromise, if I want to play Baroque music. You also see professional Baroque luthists with one instrument, usually one non extended 13c lute. In the best case, the player removes the extra strings, when playing 11c music to keep the sound clearer. In this case, I may prefer a 10c/11c lute, but that is partly because I am coming from Renaissance technique, and I don't want to great a technical jump.

If I was reasonable, I would go for a 6c lute and develop my Renaissance repertoire, but I am too much of a dilettante, and I do also love that 11c French repertoire.

Regards
Anthony



Le 7 nov. 07 à 19:29, Luca Manassero a écrit :

I think this is very important and often completely forgotten.

Lutes were so very different over places and countries AND periods, that our "pathetic" way of thinking when we go around with an 8- course lute and uses it for absolutely everything between 1490 and 1630...

On this and other lists amny very good lutenists can believe that an 8-course is a very acceptable compromise, but try to play Capirola on an 8-course or certains Fantasie of Francesco da Milano and you'll feel (and hear) immediately that you're playing the wrong instrument.

Obviously the poor lutenist can't afford to live in a museum sporting 10 to 12 instruments (let alone keeping them tuned...), but still sometimes we really try to much ;-)

By the way, this whole conversation has been and IS very inspirational.

Cheers,

Luca
http://liuti.manassero.com


Daniel Winheld on 7-11-2007 18:01 wrote:
I have felt that there is not enough attention paid to the variety of of 6 course lutes one specialist could need- but of course these days so many of us are trying to telescope all 300 years of multiple lute traditions & functions in one career and one lifetime, unthinkable historically.





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