I just saw the original Van Dyck picture in the Prado this morning. And very fine it is too. The label next to it says that the Prado think that it probably isn't Jacques Gaultier. Certainly the man doesn't look anything like the other pictures of JG.
By the way, the instrument has (only) six single bass courses. The upper courses are double-strung. P On 01/01/2008, Anthony Hind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mathias > I have no argument in favour of the van Dyck being a portrait of > Jacques. It has also been argued that the portrait by Reyn is of > Jacques : > http://tinyurl.com/24rdsj > See, at http://tinyurl.com/27fvgm > I don't know what the general view of this is either. > > > If this is a true picture of Jacques Gaultier: > > http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20419.html (right) - and > > it has been discussed at length that he probably was left-handed, btw, > > because of the instrument he is holding (the pic is wrong-sidedly > > rendered in the Early music article). > > > However, I am not sure about the left/right sided question. > What appears to be the original of the engraving, is in the Royal > Academy, and is rendered in the inverse of the picture on the Van > Edwards' site. > Compare : > http://tinyurl.com/yt8ovw > and the original, at the RA > http://tinyurl.com/yvfn5z > Which is the right way round? Is it a case of positive and negative > in the engraving process. Jacques is not playing the lute. Can we be > sure? > > There are other reasons why a portrait, or a painting might be inversed: > One might be the use of a camera obscura, as once it was supposed > Vermeer had used, but that seems unlikely for a stylized portrait, > see at > http://www.grand-illusions.com/vermeer/vermeer2.htm > > The other might be for some symbolic reason, as argued for this > rendering of Criccieth Castle, by Turner. > http://tinyurl.com/2aj2j9 > Compare with my own photo taken towards Criccieth Castle at sunset: > http://tinyurl.com/2bf8fa > It is generally considered that, by inversing the castle, Turner > increases the feeling of the wildness of the sea, against which the > castle is now facing. > > Perhaps, a move to the left arm was required to focus on the lutist. > Regards > Anthony > > Le 1 janv. 08 =E0 11:03, Mathias R=F6sel a ecrit : > > > "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> Ed > >> My message was "sabred". I will try again. > >> > >> Ed > >> Perhaps, if this is so, van Dyck is giving an interpretation of > >> "English" Gaultier, not just as a Chitaronne player see also > >> http://tinyurl.com/2xa5by > >> There is some claim that this lute player could be Jacques Gaultier, > > > > If this is a true picture of Jacques Gaultier: > > http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20419.html (right) - and > > it has been discussed at length that he probably was left-handed, btw, > > because of the instrument he is holding (the pic is wrong-sidedly > > rendered in the Early music article). > > > > > > > > > then this > > http://www.classiquenews.com/ecouter/lire_article.aspx? > > article=330&identifiant=7KV764UKJ1E3HWXL4VX6OACYI > > is certainly not the same man: hair-cut, eyebrows, shape of face. You > > would expect a painter to depict the traits as truely as possible, > > wouldn't you. And his instrument is for a right-handed player. > > > > Mathias > > > >> who it is also claimed escaped from France while he was wanted for > >> murder, and who later bit a piece out of an English lute player's > >> face (Jacques did not just leave traces on lute bellies, by all > >> accounts. See Janet Snowman, in an article, dated December 2006, > >> entitled APOL LO Academy Pictures On-Line, Robert Spencer) > >> http://tinyurl.com/239h99 > >> .Regards > >> Anthony > >> > >> Le 31 dec. 07 =E0 11:05, Ed Durbrow a ecrit : > >> > >>> > >>> On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:56 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> There are new photos of unrestored lutes on Mimmo Peruffo's site at > >>>> > >>>> http://www.aquilacorde.com/lutes.htm > >>> > >>> What the heck is that metal contraption on the guy's hand in the > >>> painting about 3/4 of the way down the page: Anton van Dyck (ca. > >>> 1630): archlute player? Is he holding a sword too? > >>> > >>> Ed Durbrow > >>> Saitama, Japan > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > -- > -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty --
