Very good mt dear Howard - but really not at all.  I very much welcomed your 
informed contributions as testing the envelope of knowledge by citing early 
sources and organological data rather than assertions based simply on personal 
preference.  Sorry if you thought it at all wrathful!

However, my complaint about Barber goes back many years (when I had the 
temerity to first question his identification of the 'Chambure vihuela' as a 
typical instrument for the early 16thC repertoire and his continuing failure to 
mention organolgical work undertaken by many others), and more recently (pasted 
below) when I pointed out that, despite his most recent criticism (and personal 
abuse)of me for advocating large theorbos, in fact his own website supported my 
position!

Martyn


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Thursday, 21 February, 2008 4:59 PM
From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>View contact details To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], "Lute Net" <[email protected]>
 
 Dear Stephen Barber, It has just been brought to my attention that your 
website contains a scurrilous personal attack on me. Since the attack is based 
on a blatant misrepresentation of observations I first made on an internet 
site, it is also appropriate to copy my response there. I'm told that you have 
a history of making such scurrilous and often inaccurate allegations (including 
I'm also informed of accusations of theft by other makers) and, indeed, your 
current website has more, including: your English theorbo details being  
'copied by another luthier'; a 'mutually-supportive rumour-mill' by those 
failing to agree with you about Edlinger,etc.  Some may, of course, choose to 
ignore your comments as appearing to be deluded irrational rantings but others 
believe such public misrepresentations should always be firmly addressed. 
In short, you state that my description (and those of my 'cronies' as you put 
it) of  small theorboes as 'toys' is 'puerile, inaccurate and ill-informed'; 
and, indeed, it might well be if that is only what I wrote.  In fact, if you 
read what was actually written in the thread, you'll see that my comment about 
'toys' only applied to small instruments (say, fingered string length in the 
high 70s) being strung as double reentrant in the A or G tuning and I 
specifically excluded single reentrant small theorboes or double reentrant 
instruments at a significantly higher nominal pitch (eg the lesser French 
Theorbo in D; or the tiorbino) from my comment.  It is especially surprising 
that you oppose my position since all the double reentrant theorboes in A and G 
listed on your own website (other than your 'own design') are directly in line 
with it!  ie in mm: 930, 895, 860, 860, 890, 984, 900, 840, 865. Further, as 
you will also know from reading the thread, the
 debate came about because of a particular response to a query about the size 
of double reentrant theorbos in A or G; this response stated that  'anything 
over 82 (cm) is a speciality instrument only for people with huge hands or for 
those who only ever play in high positions'.  It is again surprising, my dear 
Stephen, that you also now seem to support this view,  since all the theorbos 
in A or G (other than your 'own design') which you offer are for larger 
instruments than 82cm, and many much larger! 
Perhaps, in my own case, your antipathy and clumsy personal attacks may stem 
from my temerity some years ago in first privately questioning some of your 
speculations.  However, quite why you feel impelled to personally attack, 
misrepresent and generally accuse so many others is a more worrying 
characteristic.
Martyn Hodgson
PS  You obviously missed my recent recital to the Lute Society and so you also 
missed the opportunity to see my gallichon which many admired.  It is based on 
the 1773 Stautinger and it was in considering the identity of this instrument 
which first led me to identify this entire family of instruments (FoMRHI 
Quarterly 1979).  I should be grateful if you would kindly cite my paper on 
your website in the section on mandoras/gallichons.  MH.  


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--- On Sun, 25/5/08, howard posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: howard posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings
> To: "LUTELIST List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, 25 May, 2008, 6:13 AM
> On May 24, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Gernot Hilger wrote:
> 
> > Don't say that too loudly. You'll fall prey to
> Stephen Barber's  
> > wrath. Ask Martyn!
> 
> I'm far more likely to fall prey to Martyn's wrath.
> 
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