Tonni Iommi from Black Sabbath reason for downtuning was the accident that
damaged his fingers.....

>From Wikipedia...

"Tony Iommi picked up the guitar as a teenager, after being inspired by the
likes of Hank Marvin and The Shadows. He played guitar left-handed. In an
industrial accident at the age of 17 on his last day of work in a sheet
metal factory, he lost the tips of the middle and ring finger of his right
hand. Iommi considered abandoning music, but his boss (who knew of Iommi's
"night job" as a pub band guitar player) encouraged him to reconsider by
playing a record by jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt, who earned wide acclaim
despite limited use of his fretting hand.

After attempting to learn to play right-handed, Iommi strung his guitars
with extra-light strings (using banjo strings, which were a lighter gauge
than even the lightest guitar-strings of the time) and wore plastic covers
over the two damaged fingers. He fashioned the latter himself, by melting
plastic liquid-soap bottles into a ball and then using a soldering iron to
make holes into this ball, putting his fingers in while the plastic was
still soft enough to be shaped. He then trimmed and sanded away the excess
plastic to leave himself with two thimbles, which he then covered with
leather, to provide better grip on the strings. Subsequent tips have been
custom-made."

The fascinating thing is that an industrial accident to a teenager in
Birmingham should cause an impact on a whole music culture.

That said the use of this downtuning is varied from a semitone to 2 whole
tones and even beyond. Some guitarists use thicker string to compensate for
the loss in tension and some do not.

Also not every heavy metal band uses downtuning, for example one of the most
important HM bands Iron Maiden, who have begun to use drop-d tuning for some
songs in the last 8 years, still use standard guitar pitch.

It just shows that music history can take strange twists, but it seems that
certain themes recur again and again, the use of pitch as an important part
of a musical aesthetic is one of them.

All the best
Mark   

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Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 17:42
An: David Tayler; lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: very low pitch

David,

    Not impressed.  Black Sabbath was playing at 370
and below, way before anyone else back in the early
1970's.  Most other hard rock/metal bands tune to at
least 415 or 392 - as they have been doing for a
couple of decades.  Truly HIP.  ;-)


Chris



--- David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My French ensemble performs often at 370, this
> includes specially 
> made keyboards, winds and strings, plus large lutes
> at 370, which can 
> be considered "french pitch" along with "super low"
> pitch of ~340.
> Good evidence for both pitches from historical
> keyboard instruments, 
> but other pitches must have been used, such as 392,
> 408, 399, 411, 430, etc.
> 
> Free listen:
>
http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/orinda-airs/hifi_play
> 
> As a starting point for French baroque lute, on a
> "French Frey", 399 
> or 400 is a very good choice. I often find 415 a bit
> too high, and 
> 392 a bit tubby due to the relatively small scale.
> 
> An amusing pitch fact--
> Most HIP classical music is performed at 430, higher
> than 415, even 
> though Mozart's tuning fork was 2 cents lower than
> Handel's fork.
> dt
> 
> 
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