----- Original Message -----
From: "gary digman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "lutelist" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lineage of early Guitars
Aside from octave stringing on the 4th and 5th cources, was not Francisco
Gerau's tuning identical to strings 5 thru 1 of the "modern" guutar?
Surely Gerau was not the first to use this non-reentrant tuning for the
baroque guitar.
No - indeed he wasn't! Different ways of stringing the guitar were used
throughout the 17th century. But better not to start going into that yet
again. Different methods of stringing don't make that much difference to
the music - in spite of what many people think. The point is that you must
have high octave strings on the 4th and 5th courses for music to make sense
which is why it doesn't work on a classical guitar. The low octave strings
(bourdons) are an optional extra.
Incidentaly Fuenllana's 5-course vihuela has the same interval pattern as
the baroque guitar and the classical guitar without a 6th string.
Monica
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joshua Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:12 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lineage of early Guitars
This is really an impossible question short of writing a book on the
subject.
However - received wisdom I think is that the vihuela could originally be
played with a bow, a plectrum or finger style - to whit
vihuela de arco
vihuela de penola
vihuela de mano.
However "guitars" or instruments called "guitarra" seem to have existed
alongside the vihuela and it is not altogether clear whether this was
simply
a vihuela with fewer strings or derived from a different prototype.
Be that as it may, the present day classical guitar is probably not a
direct
descendent of the vihuela - because in between you get my good friend
"the
baroque guitar" which had only five courses and a re-entrant tuning and
was
all the rage in the 17th and early 18th century.
About the middle of the 18th century someone had the bright idea of
putting
a sixth course on it - or back on it ...and the rest... as they say ...is
history.
Hope that's helpful and I don't spark off a whole correspndence from
people
who disagree with my "History of the guitar in a nutshell".
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Lineage of early Guitars
Guys,
I have read various sources on the web about the relation of the
Vihuela to other stringed instruments. I am looking for information on
the lineage of the modern Acoustic Guitars.
I read on one site that the Vihuela was once a bowed instrument, is
the
Classical and Flamenco Guitars you see today direct relatives of the
Vihuela, or are there other instruments that influenced them first?
Josh
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