Hmmmmm Monterverdi invented the tremolo? That's new to me.
Capirola speaks of it a century earlier.
tremolo s'un tasto solo
And Ganassi gives instructions for it on the recorder in the 1530s.

I don't see a standard definition possible, like lute, the words have 
too many interpretations.
Even vibrato can mean a wobble, especially when used as a criticism.
But, the terms are often used to distinguish amongst: rippling 
shakes--vibrato--rapid glottal in the manner of 
vibrato--tremolo--excessive, harsh glottal with narrow throat--the bleat--
and slow assymetric oscillation, like an old tape deck--wobble.

Old recordings can create the illusion that the wobble exists when it 
doesn't, and also cause the narrow vibrato to disappear.
But the bleat and the tremolo, those come through the ages loud and clear.

In the renaissance, a lot of these words were used in different ways, 
so the tremolo can mean all sorts of things. Nowadays, I have never 
used the term to describe a trill, but I don't hear the word very often.
dt


At 02:28 AM 2/5/2009, you wrote:
>Must admit I find this confusing too.
>
>According to the great encyclopedia of the cyber world wikipedia:
>
>The tremolo was invented by late 16th century composer Claudio Monteverdi,
>as described by Weiss and Taruskin in the book Music in the western world: A
>history of documents page 146
>
>Perhaps the definition can be better understood from that source.
>
>As a guitarist ( and a lutenist ) tremolo & vibrato are two different
>things. Tremolo being achieved either with a stomp box or with a tremolo
>arm, oft known as a 'wang bar' vibrato on the other hand is the rapid
>movement of the fingers on a note, either by short pulls and releases of the
>strings or by rapid rocking motion of the string on the fretted note.
>
>Neil
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerzy Zak [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: 05 February 2009 10:13
>To: Lute Net
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Haynes Book, was French trill?
>
>
>Excuse me, but are we talking about some rare forgotten curiosity of
>someones articulation or a term on par with vibrato, considering
>modern termonology. Until now I thought 'tremolo' is a fast
>repetition of one or two notes, as in scoring (orchestration/
>instrumentation) for bowed strings, but also known as a 'guitar
>tremolo'.
>
>I think, David shoud reply what he means.
>Regards,
>J
>_____
>
>On 2009-02-05, at 09:23, Daniel Winheld wrote:
>
> >> On 2009-02-04, at 21:30, David Tayler wrote:
> >>
> >>> BTW, the tremolo is more interesting than the vibrato in early
> >>> recordings. People stopped using it. And it sure sounds better
> >>> without it. I'd trade vibrato for tremolo any day. Nobody talks
> >>> about that, but it is the biggest single change in performance in
> >>> the 20th century.
> >
> > Conchita Supervia- Spanish singer, 1895- 1936. Did some very
> > interesting things with her voice. Also had the ability to refrain
> > from doing them.
> >
> >> What is tremolo in singing or on melody instrument?
> >> J
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