I don't kniow what you mean by "later"-- the moral implications were added at least as early as the Roman Empire. It has to do with Augury. The augurs, interestingly enough, formed a collegium. dt
At 02:31 PM 2/9/2009, you wrote: >No stance on morality was intended to be implied. Sinistral literally means >left handed/oriented. The moral implications were added later. > >Best, >Eugene > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:07 PM > > To: lute > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism > > > > What about this picture from 1601 (by Philippe Galle) : > > http://le.luth.free.fr/lefties.htm > > When in the same picture you can see an right-handed player and a left- > > handed one, I suppose it adds up to admitting that lefties did exist, even > > in a very small proportion, just like now. > > And I don't really buy the "moral" justification to the representation of > > a lefty player... > > > > Best, > > > > Jean-Marie, one rather happy lefty in the oppressed minority ;-))) > > > > ======= 09-02-2009 21:45:56 ======= > > > > > > > >The quid non sentit amor is the one I was thinking of > > >http://emblems.let.uu.nl/c1627_facsimile.html?thumb=tekst254&emblem=43 > > > > > >Lefty or reversi? > > > > > > 1627 or therabouts my Dutch is rusty. > > >Use the ZOOM button at the bottom to see the OUD like plectrum. > > >Ooops there is English too--not very helpful. > > > > > >dt > > > > > >>I still contend there may have been a few to many left-handed lute > > players: > > >>perhaps as broadly represented as within the population at large, > > perhaps > > >>even more so. Nobody knows. Being right-handed and fretting with the > > left > > >>hand are not a perfect corollaries. It also is not mandatory for > > lefties to > > >>place the neck of a stringed instrument in their right hand. I don't, I > > >>never have, and I was never discouraged from expressing my inherent > > >>sinistral tendencies. I also don't dictate to my sinistral clan that my > > way > > >>(the standard way) is the only way. Make it work however you can. > > >> > > >>Best, > > >>Eugene > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: David Tayler [mailto:[email protected]] > > >> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:18 PM > > >> > To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu > > >> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism > > >> > > > >> > Obviously, because there were no lefty lute players. Except for > > >> > Leonardo da Vinci. > > >> > There are some nice lefty lute player images in the fabulous emblem > > >> > collection that was posted here recently. > > >> > dt > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > At 04:25 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: > > >> > >On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier > > >> > ><[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > May I remind all of you interested in that thread on hand > > >> > > position, that I had put up a couple of web pages with > > iconographical > > >> > > > > > >> > >http://le.luth.free.fr/ > > >> > > > > >> > >Nice pages, and not a lefty in sight! > > >> > > > > >> > >David > > >> > > > > >> > >-- > > >> > >******************************* > > >> > >David van Ooijen > > >> > >[email protected] > > >> > >www.davidvanooijen.nl > > >> > >******************************* > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>To get on or off this list see list information at > > >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------- > > >Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. > > >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > [email protected] > > http://poirierjm.free.fr > > 09-02-2009 > >
