Duncan
        One would think that once a photo was on a web site, linking to that  
photo would be perfectly alright, just drawing attention to what is  
already there.
I imagine in most cases, there is no problem, as such a link is a  
sort of promotion, but apparently the legal area here is very grey  
indeed.

I looked at that for the same reason that you are doing so now, a s I  
wanted to create a web page, but wondered just how easy it would be  
to link up to information on other sites, iconography, paintings,  
museum photos, etc. When I saw all the potential problems,  
particularly that one might be liable to the legal fees of Google, I  
hesitated

Can you, for example, put a link to a Youtube film of a well known  
lutenist? Well apparently these are not all legal and above board, so  
you could be linking to something that is already infringing copy-right.

You were probably not going to do that, but other people will be  
reading this reply.

I found these pages about the legal issue. It both makes things  
clearer and more complex:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/linkright.html
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

I also found this short and explicative text, which seems to prevent  
almost anything:

http://www.bitlaw.com/internet/webpage.html

Derivative Work Created by Linking-In Images Found on Other Sites.  
When the image from another web site is incorporated into one's own  
page by means of an unauthorized IMG link, there is no direct copying  
by the creator of the link. Nonetheless, when the visiting browser  
retrieves the image from the other web site and combines it with the  
text on the current page, the creator of the web site may be guilty  
of contributory copyright infringement for creating a derivative  
work. Consequently, one should not include links to images found on  
another party's web site without first getting permission.

However, it may be legal to give a link to such a photo and then to  
make a critical analysis of it.

        I think creating links on a lute web page is probably different from  
sending a message to a lute list using such a link, as that is for  
members of a list, and so for private consumption. How about the blog  
pages within Ning? Are they private, or open to anyone?

Anthony

PS I notice that on the lute site of a well known lutemaker, the  
photos of lutes that belong to the Musée de la Musique, here in  
Paris, are now blank.
So I suppose he either became worried that he might be infringing  
their copyright, or they made an explicit demand for him to remove  
such images.

There are some lawyers on our list, so perhaps they may comment.


Le 12 mars 09 à 17:26, Duncan Midwinter a écrit :

>    exactly :)
>
>    2009/3/12 Guy Smith <[1][email protected]>
>
>      Many luthiers have a web site with pictures of their wares. You
>      could try
>      contacting them for permission to use some of those pictures  
> on you
>      site
>      (presumably with a link back to their Web site).
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Duncan Midwinter [mailto:[2][email protected]]
>    Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:44 AM
>    To: [3][email protected]
>
>    Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute pictures for website...
>      I don't want to use any old picture without permission, also I  
> would
>      like to link the picture back to it's source as a way of  
> providing
>    more
>      information about the instrument. At the moment my site (which is
>    still
>      in construction) has several links to Wikipedia content, but I  
> would
>      like to provide links to more diverse content.
>      Many thanks,
>      Duncan.
>      --
>      2009/3/12 [1][4][email protected]
>    <[2][5][email protected]>
>        If you had googled before, you would have found countless  
> numbers
>    of
>        pictures. Try related Wikipedia-articles also.
>        M
>      -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:42:02 +0100
>> Subject: [LUTE] Lute pictures for website...
>> From: Duncan Midwinter <[3][6][email protected]>
>> To: [4][7][email protected]
>> Does anyone have any images of lutes that I could use on a website
>    --
>> I want to write a brief description of the lute and accompany it
>    with
>> pics of Renaissance and Baroque lutes. If anyone wants me to link
>      back
>> to their site I would be more than happy to.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Duncan.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> [1][5][8]http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
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>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. [6][9]http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>>
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> [7][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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>    References
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>      2. mailto:[13][email protected]
>      3. mailto:[14][email protected]
>      4. mailto:[15][email protected]
>      5. [16]http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>      6. [17]http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>      7. [18]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>      8. [19]http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
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>    7. mailto:[email protected]
>    8. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>    9. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>   10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   11. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>   12. mailto:[email protected]
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>   14. mailto:[email protected]
>   15. mailto:[email protected]
>   16. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>   17. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>   18. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   19. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
>   20. http://www.digital-orchestrations.nxserve.net/
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