Perhaps clutching at straws, the name 'tiorba' might be a generic pseudonym for any plucked instrument with fingered strings of the period. So a large continuo calchedon (string length c. 96cm) might be a candidate (eg the Prague Edlinger of roughly contemporary date)). To get the lowest ,G the 6th string would need to be tuned a tone lower than its usual ,A (a not unkown gallicon/mandora tuning).
Certainly all the required chomatic notes are playable on such an instrument and there's at least two being played nowadays (I last took mine for an outing in Telleman's Hamburg water music under Peter Holman earlier this year..................). The music is also similar in style to a concerto for two calchedons by Fasch (later rescored for two bassons - perhaps even at that date finding two large instruments was a problem). MH --- On Fri, 26/6/09, Andreas Schlegel <[email protected]> wrote: From: Andreas Schlegel <[email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: IMSLP / Petrucci Music Library!! To: "Roland Hayes" <[email protected]> Cc: "Stuart Walsh" <[email protected]>, "Arto Wikla" <[email protected]>, "lutelist" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, 26 June, 2009, 7:30 AM There exist an edition of the Heinichen Concerto by Concerto Edition CE03-Hei01. The question of the used instrument in the Heinichen Concerto is very tricky! The first movement is perfect for the range of a German theorbo (G A d f a d' on the first courses, basses from 14th course in F# G A B C# D E F#, but the lowest bass in this movement is the 13th course in G). But the second movement uses the following basses (from he 14th course up to the 6th course): F# G A B C D Eflat E F G G# So you have to be able to finger from the 9th course up and to tune the 10th course from a C# to C (and for the last movement back to C#. That is very strange! I have no idea which surviving instrument has the correct setup for this bassline. And: The bassline of the theorbo is also "numbered" - these numbers are missed in the edition. The third movement is again perfectly written for a German theorbo (including the 14th course in F#!). Briefly: First movement: German Theorbo, but also possible on a "normal" theorbo Second movement: Impossible on the known theorbo types Third movement: Only possible on a German theorbo because of the use of he 14th course in F# Has somebody an explanation for this instrument question? Andreas Am 26.06.2009 um 04:50 schrieb Roland Hayes: > Check out the tiorba line in the concerto in D by Heinichen, from a > manuscript score! Plus Rossi Lib. III for 2 violins and chitarrone! > Awesome! r. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: [1][email protected] on behalf of Stuart Walsh > Sent: Thu 6/25/2009 12:41 PM > To: Arto Wikla > Cc: lutelist > Subject: [LUTE] Re: IMSLP / Petrucci Music Library!! > >> Dear lutenists, >> >> I happened to find a treasury of music! Perhaps it has already been >> mentioned here, but it is worth of mantioning again! :-) >> >> In >> >> [1][2]http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page >> >> you can find the IMSLP/Petrucci Music Library, "virtual library >> containing all public domain music scores and/or sheet music, as well >> as scores from composers who are willing to share their music with > the >> world without charge" (they have for ex. lots of Lully there...) >> >> Arto >> > Interesting. Had a quick look around. There are quite a few > pieces in > MS > for mandolino by Gervasio. > Stuart >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > - >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.374 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: > 06/25/09 06:22:00 >> >> > > -- > > References > > 1. [4]http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page > 2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 [6][email protected] -- -- References 1. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] 2. http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]
