I think there really is no thumb under and over.

There are however

Thumb "in"--the thumb is inside the hand'' NB: just as it was called back then
Thumb "in tips up"  the finger tips are higher
Thumb "out & stretched"--thumb must be like a bow NB specifically 
described historically
Thumb "out"--not like a bow, more relaxed
Thumb "middle"--this is "over" in the sense that it is directly over 
the first finger, however, it would be confusing to term it this way.

Obviously, there are a thousand variations on these, but this is a 
good starting point.
To just start at "over" and "under" will just create technique 
problems becuase you may get stuck or wobble between different positions.
Each of these produces a very distinctive and different sound.
Also, because the historical positions are not accurately described, 
they have fallen out of use.
I use all five of these depending on the instrument and the repertory.

dt


At 07:09 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >   when the index finger strikes the string, it ends its
> > =A0 stroke under and behind the thumb, before returning to its starting
> > =A0 position in front of the thumb.
>
>There are many ways of looking at it. Some suggestions, others will
>give more, so take your pick.
>
>A relaxed hand has thumb under index. Try without a lute. Aim for a
>relaxed hand when playing.
>
>Place thumb between index and middle finger. (Yes, fig-sign.) Unbend
>fingers, don't overdo the strechting, remember to relax. Good lute
>playing hand.
>
>Do the plucking movement with your under-arm, bit of wrist, very litle
>bit of finger. So index-to-thumb position does change but little
>during  plucking.
>
>After plucking thumb, don't 'move it back' to starting position, but
>let plucking motion (under-arm) for index take your hand and hence
>thumb back to starting point.
>
>Play slowly, concentrate on relaxing and erradicating superfluous movements=



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