So it looks as though his mistake was in the pricing, seeking 14 supporters (presumably) at 100 euros. If it had been the other way round, 100 supporters at 14 euros, everyone would have been happy?
P 2009/10/23 Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> Dear Peter and all, Being one of the members of the French list who expressed his disapproval of Mr Y.'s "approach" , I would simply like to underline that I never said a word against the idea of using a subscription to help to realize a project, whatever this project may be : selling cds in advance for a slightluy smaller price seems a quite normal and acceptable solution. But I feel that asking potential buyers to pay 100 euros ( ca 150 $) for 1 CD is a bit too much, and that sort of sponsorship is altogether a quite different business. True, Mace asked people to subscribe to his book for 12 shillings, if we make a quick conversion in today's money we get approximately 75 euros (or 112$) - see [2]http://tinyurl.com/ykkdpds for money conversions - but Musick's Monument was a sturdy 272 pages book which is still an authority on the question it deals with, today as in 1676 when it was published. I have already paid that sort of money and more for long-winded academic works or monumental editions, but for a compact disc...??? I don't want to diminish Mr Y's - formerly known as Serdoura's - merit but if I wanted to get that sort of sponsor money for a cd I would NOT advertise that on the internet, a matter of decency and self respect, I suppose... I have never heard that any of our "top lutes" had resorted to that stratagem to release a cd, or have I missed something ? Just a reminder : French people on the dole, with no regular income, get some 450 euros per month for a living... So I disagree with publicizing that sort of proposition : 100 for 1 CD... Where is the "abuse" really ? All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier ================================= == En reponse au message du 23-10-2009, 11:49:22 == > > Ooh dear, the members of the French lute list don't like this > approach AT ALL and have been heaping abuse on Mr Y. To me, it > seems more in the spirit of Thomas Mace, who lists several hundred > supporters (at 12 shillings each) of Musick's Monument, and rewards > them with A Short Epistle of Thankfulness To all my Noble > Subscribers (".. But You, Renowned Worthies, worthy of Renown, You > are the Men, High Jupiter will own..."). > > Intriguing to see Isaac Newton among Mace's subscribers. Was he known > to have any interest in the lute? > > P > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Miguel Yisrael <[1][3]miguelyisr...@gmail.com> > Date: 2009/10/20 > Subject: 1 CD "The Court of Bayreuth" Subscription - Miguel Yisrael, > baroque lute > To: > Miguel Yisrael recorded a 2nd solo CD entitled "The Court of Bayreuth", > with music from German 18th century lute music. To be released by > December the 1st 2009. > This project still needs an extra 1400 to be concluded! > We created a - 100 for 1 CD - subscription in order to finalize this > project, by the end of November. > If you can help us, please go to this link :: > [2][4]http://www.miguelyisrael.com > We warmly thank you for your contribution! > _______________________________________________________________________ > _____________________________________ > Miguel Yisrael a enregistre un nouveau CD solo intitule "The Court of > Bayreuth", dedie `a la musique baroque allemande du XVIIIe siecle. > Sortie prevue pour le 1er Decembre 2009. > Ce projet a encore besoin de 1400 pour etre acheve! > Nous avons cree une suscription - 100 pour 1 CD - en vue de finaliser > ce projet. Si vous voulez nous aider, s'il vous plait allez sur ce > lien: [3][5]http://www.miguelyisrael.com > Nous vous remercions chaleureusement pour l'aide que vous apportes `a > ce projet! -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 mob: 0044 7971 232614 e: [6]peter.l...@gmail.com [7]www.silvius.co.uk -- References 1. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 2. http://tinyurl.com/ykkdpds 3. mailto:miguelyisr...@gmail.com 4. http://www.miguelyisrael.com/ 5. http://www.miguelyisrael.com/ 6. mailto:peter.l...@gmail.com 7. http://www.silvius.co.uk/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html