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From: Narada [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 03 December 2009 15:39
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance Metaphors


Could we apply this line of thought to Dowlands Forlorn Hope Fancy?

Neil

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Sent: 03 December 2009 15:35
To: Lute list; Peter Martin
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance Metaphors


--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Peter Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Peter Martin <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance Metaphors
> To: "Lute list" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 9:54 AM
>    Reminds me of
> "Starless and Bible Black".  King Crimson, via Dylan
>    Thomas.
> 

The poem is not quite up to the eloquent heights of desperation evinced in a
line like "cigarettes and ice cream," but "Darkness" is still a pretty
decent tune.

The poem's definitely about depression.  Not truly debilitating clinical
depression, but the sort of narcissistic, "Woe is me!  Everyone _look_ at me
wallowing in my own special brand of Weltschmertz!  Don't you feel such
great sorrow and respect for my poor poet's soul that feels everything so
much more deeply than y'all?"

Its important to keep in mind that melancholy was a fashionable artistic
conceit at the time.  It really was a game of "I can out-sad you."  Thus, a
lot of this rep has its tongue firmly implanted in its cheek and there are
excursions into outright cheesiness.  C'mon, can anyone _really_ take that
"jarring, jarring sounds" bit seriously???

Melancholy was a fad precisely because it was a lot of fun to camp it up
play the sad boy.  In essence, they're mocking true depression with a wink
and a nudge.  Knowing this does not invalidate the repertoire, but it can
help to add insights into performance.  There are enough subtle twists and
turns in Dowland's settings of these poems to let us know that he was in on
the "joke" as much as anyone else.  So taking everything with deadpan
seriousness is a mistake.  I've always found performances that do this to be
the most disappointing.

Chris


      



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