Luciano's is NOT a new web site. It is a rather old web site that has not been updated for several years, not updated since he was actually completing orders, perhaps early 2005 judging from my own correspondences with him. Again, something happened between then and now--both regarding orders not completed and a site not updated--and it's unfortunate.
Eugene > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of vance wood > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:35 PM > To: Lute List > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: luciano faria > > Not wishing to condemn anyone without knowing all of the circumstances but > it seems to me if the man has time and resources in time to put up a new > first rate web site advertising instruments for sale, knowing that he may > not be able to complete those orders, or ignore some of them, or all of > them,--- it is fraud. I don't know how international law works in matters > like this but I certainly would not invest several thousands of dollars > not > being reasonably assured that I will get what I have ordered in a timely > manner. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: "Lute List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: luciano faria > > > > > >> As a luthier myself, I have empathy for any difficulties being > >> experienced > >> by Luciano. That's as it should be, but when it comes to actually doing > >> business, all rises to another level. > > > > agreed. > > > > Were these times akin to hstorical times there would be a guild or a > mayor > > and town council one could look to for oversight. in todays times there > > is bankruptcy court, for those with standing to bring complaint. We are > > not in Brazil, and have little in the way of standing; nor is it > > conveniant to make moan of any kind. > > > > I notice that LF now has a web page advertising his work. A rather > > impressive page at that, with many different instruments on show. I see > > nothing in the way of terms, no pictures of the shop, no instruments > > listed as ready for sale (that page is under construction), no > discussion > > of materials used (also under construction). > > > > New orders are of course necessary if the man and his family are to eat; > > but one hopes the man is also budgeting his time in the shop to include > > some progress on old commitments. It would be nice if he made some > public > > acknowlegement of the backlist; perhaps with pictures showing progress. > > > >> When someone askes for a recommendation for this man, I think it would > be > >> unethical not to relate my own > > > > no argument. > > > > I wonder if there is any point in trying some kind of group action? > > A public website listing outstanding commitments might be a beginning. > > To be fair, balance it with a similar list of delivered instruments. > > Include a challenge to him to echo it on his own site. > > > > I dont think any want him to go under, just want what was contracted > for. > > -- > > Dana Emery > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4677 (20091210) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4677 (20091210) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > >
