I kind of hate speaking without a reference, but i can not locate all the 
string reference material, of which there was much assembled. However, i 
remember rather well, that at Playford's time, and all around Mace at the time, 
a common practice was to take an existing gut string and cover it with a wire 
as needed. The practice was so commonly accepted, that i recall a few "just 
grab a wire and do it yourself" references, as well as the string makers 
themselves not doing the procedure, because it was considered so easy to do by 
the end user... I recall it being argued by someone, that from the language it 
was apparent that the practice was in use for as long as anyone could remember, 
matter-of-factly. It certainly was the part of bow-string making, garment 
string making and such, which would be strange to imagine being an isolated 
technique. alexander r.


On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:10:48 -0600
Edward Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have followed this thread with great interest.
> 
> Now that Playford gets into the discussion,  I recently had a great 
> experience.  Dan Larson, lute builder and string maker, recently 
> acquired a treasure - an original edition of Playford's 1664 book, in 
> which the strings are mentioned.  I recently held this beautiful book 
> in mint condition, and read through some of it.
> 
> Interestingly enough, Playford does not mention the strings at 
> all;  this statement is in the very last folio, where it is an 
> advertisement from a merchant who happens to sell strings.   In any 
> event, there is not general agreement that the description in this 
> advertisement  confirms that wound strings were used.  The statement 
> describes wire twisted or gimped upon gut or silk, which does not 
> necessarily describe our modern concept of a wound string.
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:23 AM 2/4/2010, alexander wrote:
> >O, my apologies, thinking Playford, writing Mace. His complaining 
> >voice just is so loud in my head... ar
> >
> >On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:52:19 +0000
> >Martin Shepherd <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ???? Mace doesn't mention wound strings at all.  You may be thinking of
> > > the Burwell lute book, which explains that the French removed the low
> > > octave from the 11th course because the sound of it was too "big" (not
> > > necessarily sustained) and smothered the other strings.  I know of no
> > > lute source which mentions wound strings.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > alexander wrote:
> > > >  Mace in his comment regarding the "new wire wound basses", 
> > dismissed their usefulness on the same basis, as, according to him, 
> > the "currently available basses", on long lutes had too long a 
> > sustain already.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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