I meant, as you must have realised, that *physically* they are very different to play, and no amount of movable "do" is going to explain that away : )
P On 26 February 2010 05:43, David Tayler <[1][email protected]> wrote: Just a question, are you a fixed "do" (or ut) person or a movable do person? Most of use are fixed do people. But even 40 years ago, this was not the case. My teacher was trained in moveable Do, and as a music student I was tained in both--although I had to teach myself the clefs. Transposition, fortunately, was required. After about ten years I noticed I didn't see just the TAB anymore, which I'm sure would have happened very quickly if I learned in the renaissance, I just saw the notes and the tab together, although transposing tab is still slower than just notes. Ficta is just as fast. I'm not saying it is an easy idea, I'm just saying the other way doesn't make any sense, if you are trained in the renaissance or early baroque style. Plus it solves the ficta issue. This year is the 400th anniversary of the Vespers. I've played it a zillion times, but never according to the instructions--the transposition is always written out for me. I don't need it, but it is anyway. So the original "key" is the only key that is never, ever played. It is always a struggle to move away from what you are used to. dt At 01:16 AM 2/25/2010, you wrote: That sounds fine in theory, but Lachrimae in G minor or A minor are certainly very different when you actually play them! P On 25 February 2010 04:26, David Tayler <[1][2][email protected] > wrote: Re different pitches, if you accept that they used a transposing system, and that tab was equivalent, for the professionals, to music notation, then there is effectively no difference in pitch or key. dt To get on or off this list see list information at [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[4][email protected] 2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 (0)5 63 35 68 46 mob: 0044 (0)7971 232614 e: [6][email protected] [7]www.silvius.co.uk -- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. http://www.silvius.co.uk/
