Stuart, The Ulm manuscripts (from the Schermar Bibliothek in Ulm) are available as facsimiles from Cornetto Verlag ( http://www.faksimiles.org/verlag.htm ) ru by Wolfgang Schäffer. Here are the two references from hiscatalogue :
CF0073 ISMN M-700032-79-1 Sign. Misc. 133a/b FESU 35 Mandor-Buch 2 Ms. Frankreich um 1620 36.- CF0076 ISMN M-700032-82-1 Sign. Misc. 239 FESU 38 Laroussiere: Mandora-Tabulatur Ms. Paris 1626 31.- Nice music for a very unjusly underestimated instrument... All the best, Jean-Marie ================================= == En réponse au message du 01-06-2010, 19:13:23 == >EUGENE BRAIG IV wrote: >> Indeed, but the late renaissance mandore was distinct from Italian >> mandolino. >Not that distinct Eugene. Late Renaissance = Early Baroque? The Ulm MS >(which I would really like to get hold of) is 1625-30 and there are >sources of music throughout the 17th century. (info from Tyler's book) > >Aren't we simply talking about one instrument: a small, lute-like >instrument with with gut strings which in France was called the >'mandore' and in Italy, the 'mandola/mandolino'? And for both, there are >references to the top string as at g''. And even, sometimes the mandore >was double-strung. So: same sort of size, shape, string material. > >But the French version was in a different tuning (with variants) and >seems to have lost popularity in the 17th century whereas the Italian >version in the fourths tuning (from the 17th century) has never quite >died out. > >Unlike the mandola/mandolino, there are contemporary accounts of how >the mandore was played: with a quill, with a quill tied to a finger >(very odd?), with a single finger (presumably dedillo style) and plain >fingerstyle. And there are descriptions of how loud it can sound (e.g. >dominating a consort of lutes - Trichet). > >It strikes me as a bit odd that an evidently popular instrument >typically with single strings should get them doubled as it became more >Italianate. Could the single-string instruments be of lighter >construction? But mandolini are incredibly light anyway. Would the >double stringing of courses make the instruments louder. But >contemporary accounts suggest that the mandore was loud. Would the >double stringing favour a particular way of playing the strings? > >Lastly, Tyler quotes a French source from 1690 saying that some mandore >players used a plectrum tied to the index finger for the first course >and the thumb on the lower courses. Is it possible that some >mandola/mandolino music was played in some sort of way with both quill >and fingers? > >Stuart N ¶è®ß¶¬+-±ç¥Ëbú+«b¢vÛiÿü0ÁË j»f¢ëayÛ¿Á·?ë^iÙ¢ø§uìa¶i
