Hi Stephen,

My ability to get through a lute piece without mistakes or "twangs, splats, and 
squeaks" may be  similar to yours.  Very occasionally I do question myself 
about the sense of continuing an uphill struggle, but mostly not.  As long as I 
sense any progress at all -  and that may not be daily, but rather like a 
plateau learning process where a week can go by with no noticeable improvement 
and then suddenly you notice that a passage in a piece that didn't come out 
before now does - I'm encouraged to continue.  And, beyond that, as with many 
endeavors, there is satisfaction in the process - in the discipline involved.  
To face a challenge and deal with it on a regular basis is reward in itself.  
So I say, be not discouraged.  Keep practicing - keep playing!

Best, Ned 
On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Stephen Arndt wrote:

> Dear David,
> 
> I had a very mixed reaction to your post. I am in no way a professional 
> musician, though I consider myself a serious, if not a very accomplished, 
> amateur (at least in the etymological sense of the word). Often times I have 
> listened to lute recordings and thought, "I might as well just quit. I'll 
> never play like that." I can get through any given piece without an actual 
> mistake (i.e., playing a wrong note) only one time in a hundred perhaps and 
> never without "twangs, splats, and squeaks." So, I was consoled to learn that 
> even professional musicians may have up to 2,200 edits per CD. Perhaps if I 
> could edit myself "every 2 seconds," I wouldn't sound so bad after all. It 
> could well be that commercial CDs set artificially and therefore 
> unrealistically high standards of performance. On the other hand, your most 
> recent video (I think), "It's a Wonder to See," has absolutely no "twangs, 
> splats, and squeaks" or any other imperfections that could be edited out, so 
> I am back to thin!
 king, "I might as well just quit. I'll never play like that."
> 
> I am not addressing myself now to the Paul O'Dettes, Nigel Norths, or Robert 
> Bartos among us (or even to the highly accomplished Daniel Shoskes or Valéry 
> Sauvages among us), but just to the average lute player, whoever you may be. 
> Do you have similar thoughts and feelings? Do you alternate between "I love 
> this more than anything" and "I'll never be any good at this"? Maybe we 
> should form a support group. Please let me hear from you.
> 
> Stephen Arndt
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Tayler" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:55 PM
> To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: OT: Baroque Guitar technique
> 
>> Live music is great!
>> A typical classical music CD has 800 edits, a typical solo CD, such
>> as guitar, lute, harpsichord, etc, varies, but the high and low
>> numbers for the albums I hvae worked range from 450-2200
>> Now 2200 edits is a a very large number, that's 2200 twangs splats
>> and squeeks that have been removed. Basically, a correction has been
>> applied every 2 seconds.
>> So, live music is better. By going to a real concert, you hear
>> something that is real, and support musicians directly.
>> 
>> 
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