Well - as you both already well know - the current level of scholarship
   is so poor that the elder and younger Saint Jacques generally appear as
   one.

   But the real issue is that the real passion and merit of this music is
   lost by such a generalist approach.

   ythfo

   Martyn





   --- On Thu, 31/3/11, Monica Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

     From: Monica Hall <[email protected]>
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
     To: "A. J. Ness" <[email protected]>
     Cc: "Lutelist" <[email protected]>
     Date: Thursday, 31 March, 2011, 21:01

   Don't even mention Grove - as far as the baroque guitar is concerned it
   is full of errors.<sigh, sigh. sigh>
   Monica
   ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. J. Ness"
   <[1][email protected]>
   To: "Monica Hall" <[2][email protected]>
   Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:56 PM
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
   > That's what makes me angry about the Jacques de Saint-Luc article in
   New Grove (first ed. and MGG 1963).   Musica Rara has puibo. all the
   Suittes dessus and bassus, andattributres them one by one to three
   different composers named St.Luc.<sigh>
   > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hall"
   <[3][email protected]>
   > To: "Monica Hall" <[4][email protected]>
   > Cc: "Lutelist" <[5][email protected]>
   > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:23 PM
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
   >
   >
   >> Yes - the music is fun and I really enjoyed hearing the solo pieces
   too - but liner notes are just nonsense.   They have just made it all
   up as a kind of concept to hang the recording on.
   >>
   >> Really it's irresponsible - because what they have said is now being
   repeated as if it were true.
   >>
   >> What a world we live in.....
   >>
   >> Monica
   >>
   >>
   >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hall"
   <[6][email protected]>
   >> To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[7][email protected]>
   >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:20 PM
   >> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
   >>
   >>
   >>>
   >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene C. Braig IV"
   <[8][email protected]>
   >>> To: "'Lutelist'" <[9][email protected]>
   >>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:12 PM
   >>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> I quite like that CD (especially the guitar solos that they opted
   to record
   >>>> as solos), but the liner notes do strike me as a bit "whimsical."
   >>>>
   >>>> Eugene
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> -----Original Message-----
   >>>>> From: [10][email protected]
   [mailto:[11][email protected]] On
   >>>>> Behalf Of Monica Hall
   >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:10 PM
   >>>>> To: Jean-Marie Poirier
   >>>>> Cc: Lutelist
   >>>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
   >>>>>
   >>>>> Wow - that was quick work.   That must be the picture.   But is
   there any
   >>>>> evidence  that the lutenist is Foscarini?
   >>>>>
   >>>>> To be honest - when I first read the liner notes to the CD I
   thought they
   >>>>> were a work of fiction.   But perhaps I am missing something.
   >>>>>
   >>>>> Monica
   >>>>>
   >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
   >>>>> From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[12][email protected]>
   >>>>> To: "Monica Hall" <[13][email protected]>
   >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:05 PM
   >>>>> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Foscarini Experience
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>> > Monica,
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > Would that be the picture you are looking for ?
   >>>>> > If yes, it's just across the street, VAM ;-) !
   >>>>> > Here's a link with details :
   >>>>> >
   [14]http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O18973/painting-the-ommeganck-in-
   >>>>> brussels-on/
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > All the best,
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > Jean-Marie
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > =================================
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > == En reponse au message du 31-03-2011, 20:54:29 ==
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> >>   I came across this CD  by the group Foscarini Experience
   with the
   >>>>> title
   >>>>> >>   "Bon voyage" some time ago.    In the liner notes it
   mentions an
   >>>>> >>   illustration which features Foscarini on a wagon playing the
   lute
   >>>>> >>   together with a girl with a triangle and a violone player
   which
   >>>>> >>   apparently dates from 1615 and is part of an illustration of
   a >> feast
   >>>>> >>   held for the Archduchess Isabella Clara Eugenia, the wife of
   the
   >>>>> >>   Archduke Albert.
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>   Does anyone know anything about this illustration and
   whether the
   >>>>> >>   lutenist is clearly identified as Foscarini.  I have done a
   bit >> of
   >>>>> >>   surfing the net but haven't found any trace of it.
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>   Monica
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>   --
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>
   >>>>> >>To get on or off this list see list information at
   >>>>> >>[15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >>>>> >
   >>>>> > ========================================
   >>>>> >
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>
   >>
   >

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