Dear Franz,
One of the best articles on the subject is 'Number symbolism in the
renaissance
lute rose' by Robin Headlam Wells in the January 1981 issue of Early Music
(volume 9 no.1 ISSN 0306-1078). It discusses the lute rose, its historical
origins
and its relationship to renaissance humanism in considerable detail. It's
available
online at: http://em.oxfordjournals.org/content/9/1/32.full.pdf+html 
but unfortunately it's quite expensive to buy short term access.

Best wishes,

Denys



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Franz Mechsner
Sent: 19 May 2011 06:35
To: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Roses

   Dear All,

   I am getting fascinated with the issue of roses and would like to
   inform myself better about history, geometric construction, actual
   making, meaning and symbolism (if there is one), relationship to
   cathedral roses, arab roses etc. of this wonderful craftmanship. I have
   got so far mainly Alexander Batov's welsite, the book "Islamic design"
   by Daud Sutton and "The grammar of ornament" by Owen Jones. Any idea
   and hint to dig deeper will be most welcome!

   Best regards
   Franz
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   Von: [email protected] im Auftrag von Ron Andrico
   Gesendet: Fr 13.05.2011 14:00
   An: martin; lute
   Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Luitspeler / Lute player Jozef van Wissem

      Martin & All:
      I guess the electronic backwards approach has its own validity but,
      personally, I think there is a great deal of fascinating information
      for us to seek and understand about the music that was originally
      composed for the instrument without the modern tampering.  I find
   I'm
      not quite done looking at the old music.
      To anyone who is interested, we have a new blog post - not much
   about
      lute but about teaching music.  [1][1]http://mignarda.wordpress.com/
      Best wishes,
      Ron Andrico
      > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 21:45:32 +0100
      > To: [email protected]
      > From: [email protected]
      > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luitspeler / Lute player Jozef van Wissem
      >
      > I found this rather funny, in the light of our recent discussion
      about
      > contemporary music for the lute.
      > Now I know what I have to do - just play Francesco da Milano
      backwards
      > - it doesn't have any structure, anyway....
      > Martin
      > -------- Original Message --------
      >
      > Subject: Luitspeler / Lute player Jozef van Wissem
      > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 20:58:05 +0200
      > From: Mike Kramer [1]<[email protected]>
      > To: Mike Kramer [2]<[email protected]>
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References

   1. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/
   2. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/
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