I wouldn't know, I can't afford Martins.  Come and get me, lute-list
   coppers!

   Chris.

   On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, EUGENE BRAIG IV <[1][email protected]>
   wrote:

     All I can say about T-fret wire is it is relatively old, but for some
     reason, it took some time to catch on with some conservative makers.
     Martin in the US (founded in 1833, for those unfamiliar), e.g.,
     continued to stubbornly use bar-fret wire well into the 20th c. on
   all
     their instruments, mandolins (wire strung) and guitars (originally
     intended for gut, of course).  When they did convert, they converted
     throughout their production.
     Best,
     Eugene
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Christopher Stetson <[2][email protected]>
     Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:44 am
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....
     To: David van Ooijen <[3][email protected]>
     Cc: lute List <[4][email protected]>
     >    Exactly, David, and said in 5 words what I was
     > writing an article
     >    about.
     >
     >
     >
     >    But, to get even more wildly off-lute-topic, does
     > anyone know the
     >    history of the development of mass-produced fret
     > wire of the modern
     >    type, with rounded top and T-shaped cross-
     > section?  I notice that it's
     >    already used on my oldest guitar, ca. 1860.  I
     > find it hard to imagine
     >    a luthier making it himself, but I notice that
     > while my old guitars all
     >    have (it looks original, anyway), but my wire-
     > strung mandolins, made at
     >    least 30 years later, have fret wire with a simple
     > bar profile.  I
     >    presume the difference is because of the different
     > string material.
     >
     >    Best to all, and keep playing,
     >
     >    Chris.
     >
     >    On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:06 AM, David van Ooijen
     >    <[1][5][email protected]> wrote:
     >
     >    > On May 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Sean Smith wrote:
     >    >
     >    >> Guitars in the early 20th century used metal
     > frets and gut together,
     >    I presume.
     >    >
     >    > And in the 19th century.
     >    >
     >
     >      And in the 21st.
     >      David
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