Learning to recognize and sing all of the modes would of course be helpful. In practice, however, things like Dorian or Mixolydian rarely actually exist in pieces. The "raised sixth" degree in Dorian is almost always lowered using the "una nota super la semper est canendum fa" rule and the "lowered seventh" in mixolydian is raised, not in the key signature, but by using musica ficta (often without being marked in mensural notation).
It would be very nice to have different temperaments. This would have to work differently than the modern ear training pedagogy with its emphasis on recognizing (equally tempered) intervals independent of key. Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Ed Durbrow <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Ed Durbrow <[email protected]> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ear training for lute playing. > To: "Herbert Ward" <[email protected]>, "LuteNet list" > <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 5:33 AM > I think mixolydian > and dorian modes are very prevalent, though they > wouldn't have called them that. When I > auditioned at Basel way back > when, the rumor was that we would have to > sight sing from tab. That > didn't happen, but it is an excellent > thing to practice as it helps you > get a linear perspective. Also, singing > one voice line while playing > another is good exercise. If you want to > know which scale to use, why > not just look at a piece (or several) and > see what notes are played and > what the tonal center is? If you are > talking about Ren lute, and even > beyond, they were trained in the > hexachord system, I believe. I have no > idea what exercises the old ones would > have done, if any, but I suspect > a lot of singing. > > Could you explain more what you are > trying to do? > On Jun 14, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Herbert Ward > wrote: > > I would like to make or obtain a > computer-generated MP3 file > or CD for ear training, adapted to lute > playing. > If I make my own, besides the usual > identification of > intervals and chords, I would like to > include identification > of scales. My initial choice of > scales is: > major > natural minor > melodic minor > harmonic minor > dorian > Is this a good set of scales for lute > playing? > Are other scales (ionian, phyrgian, > mixolydian, etc.) > important? > Are there other exercises besides > interval, chord, > and scale identification that would be > good > to include in the MP3 file? > I will post the resulting MP3 file online > for > readers of this forum to download, > if/when I complete > the project. > To get on or off this list see list > information at > [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > [2]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > [3]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 2. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > 3. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
