> Right on, Tom!  I've made this same point myself in earlier posts.  
> Ned
Thanks Ned!
  Tom
> On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> >  Something that has had me perplexed for some time:
> > "Historical" sound on recordings.
> >  It seems to me that most available recordings of lute music,
> > historical or not, are very heavy on reverberation.  It has been an
> > old ploy in the recording industry for decades - take any recording,
> > add reverb to it, and viola!  It sounds magically better to our
> > modern ears. Human hearing is geared to the presence of ambient
> > reverberation in space, but I feel that on most lute recordings -
> > indeed in most "early music" recordings, it tends to be overdone. 
> > Some time ago on this very list I remember reading an email that
> > said something like "Use this kind of microphone, add 'church', and
> > you're there."  Yes, lutes were certainly played in churches, but I
> > think the majority of lute music, at least in the Renaissance, would
> > have been played in small warm spaces in the average middle-class
> > home.  Nevertheless, the majority of lute recordings that I have
> > listened to have the "cavernous stone church" reverberation setting.
> > Totally "dry" (i.e. NO reverb) would be just as bad.  But I'd like
> > to hear some recordings of good HIP lute playing without all that
> > echo, but with a reverb that would conjure up a small, intimate
> > listening environment.
> >  Tom
> > Tom Draughon
> > Heartistry Music
> > http://www.heartistry.com/artists/tom.html
> > 714  9th Avenue West
> > Ashland, WI  54806
> > 715-682-9362
> > 
> >>>>> Art is a personal expression of universal value,
> >>>> 
> >>>> That concept of the arts has developed in Western Europe in the
> >>>> wake of political emancipation during the 18th-19th centuries.
> >>>> Before that era, artists would usually not consider themselves
> >>>> autonomous so as to make use of their art in order to express
> >>>> themselves. Most lute music dates from times older than that.
> >>> 
> >>> Point taken. But without the high-blown words I think it's fair to
> >>> say
> >> that much
> >>> lute music is still very personal. Perhaps in older times more
> >>> expressions
> >> of
> >>> craftsmanship than art, but still, personall expressions.
> >> 
> >> Sorry to blow high, but, hm . there is such a thing like personal
> >> style to compositions by, say, Handel, Emond or Vieux Gallot, to
> >> name a few. I'd like to consider them their distinguishing marks.
> >> You will recognize some of Handel's music by his pet final formula,
> >> some of Emond's allemandes by his particular shifted rhythms, and
> >> some of Vieux Gallot's pieces by his use of upper positions on the
> >> fret board. You could call that their unique selling propositions,
> >> if you will. But I'd have difficulties in taking these features as
> >> personal.
> >> 
> >> Music as a way of personal expression is a notion that didn't
> >> develop until the 19th century. Music to _raise_ fear, joy, anger,
> >> sadness, tranquility etc. has been composed since the invention of
> >> monody. But not music that expresses fear, joy, anger, sadness,
> >> tranquility etc. of its composer (like e. g. van Beethoven's
> >> Pleasant Emotions at the Arrival in the Woods, 6th Symphony, 2nd
> >> movement).
> >> 
> >> Everybody must choose their ways of performing for an audience
> >> present (even if it's no more than yourself). But taking pieces of
> >> lute music as expressing personal emotions of their composers IMO
> >> is a case of intentional fallacy, more often than not. -- I for one
> >> would base the interpretation on settings that the music probably
> >> was performed in (like royal festivities with dances, civic parties
> >> etc.) rather than on possible personal expressions of the
> >> composers.
> >> 
> >>>>> I believe that for a player it helps to understand the coding to
> >>>>> play the music more convincingly.
> >>>> 
> >>>> A pivotal point IMO: Convincingly for whom?
> >>> 
> >>> For me, remember: lute playing is just for me, that was the whole
> >>> point of
> >> doing
> >>> pointless things.
> >> 
> >> Sorry I misunderstood. So, if it's only myself I have to convince
> >> ... -- what's the difference? Finding something convincing or
> >> plausible, presupposes other people's opinions in my mind
> >> (teachers, writers, performers). If I don't have a clue, how can I
> >> be convincing even to myself? I even imagine that if I were a prof
> >> performer, I'd have in mind a generic audience as well.
> >> 
> >>> I do know. But I might not be what they expect a real minstrel to
> >>> be
> >> anyway. I
> >>> don't (usually) sing to my lute playing either, nor do I wear a
> >>> feather in
> >> my cap. ;)
> >> 
> >> Oh, yes, the feather, an important accessory. Well, you and me and
> >> some others know that it isn't really important in itself, do we.
> >> But we also know that we're sometimes expected to wear it. And if
> >> we don't, it's still there as a minus on the list. Coloured feather
> >> standing for artistic expression, rubato, some dynamics etc.
> >> 
> >> Mathias
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To get on or off this list see list information at
> >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > Tom Draughon
> > Heartistry Music
> > http://www.heartistry.com/artists/tom.html
> > 714  9th Avenue West
> > Ashland, WI  54806
> > 715-682-9362
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 


Tom Draughon
Heartistry Music
http://www.heartistry.com/artists/tom.html
714  9th Avenue West
Ashland, WI  54806
715-682-9362


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