My theory is that Dowland had a lady student and used the from-behind-under-the-lady-'s arm position as in: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-Kectio&feature=related
except with the lady sitting. :-o On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:33 AM, Stewart McCoy wrote: Dear Val, Thanks for the clip. I would make two observations: 1) It would have been better if the player playing the low notes played nearer the bridge. That way you get clear, crisp chords in the bass, and sweet single-line notes in the treble. If the chords are played too far from the bridge, you tend to get splats (strings crashing together) as with this performance. Splats are a big problem with the lute, but not the guitar. 2) It is a mistake to keep stopping in the third section so as to make the change of left-hand position easier. If Dowland had wanted extra rests, he would have written them. By adding extra time for their convenience, they destroy the rhythm of the galliard. A quick search through YouTube produces the following variety of hand placement: As I suggest: [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-Kectio&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBr3RYcjX8&feature=related Not as I suggest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EIIb9-2L0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqgsI2lVEjc&feature=related Both ways: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6Bx8gMVxY A complete cop-out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLDnkJUHS24 Best wishes, Stewart. PS to make Dowland turn in his grave - eight hands on one guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJcvexjtGg&feature=related Cher Val, Merci pour le clip. Je ferais deux observations: 1) Il aurait valu mieux si le musicien qui joue les notes basses jouait plus pres du chevalet. Comme c,a on produit des accords clairs et vifs, tandis que les notes individuelles de la melodie sont douces. Si on joue les accords trop loin du chevalet, les deux cordes d'une choeur peuvent se frapper, comme dans ce clip. C'est un grand probleme chez le luth, mais pas chez la guitarre. 2) C'est une erreur si on s'arrete continuellement dans la troisieme partie seulement pour faciliter le changement des mains. Si Dowland avait voulu plus de pauses, il les aurait ecrites. En ajoutant du temps seulement pour les aider `a changer position, ils detruisent le rhythme du gaillard. On peut trouver vite chez YouTube des fac,ons differentes de tenir les mains: Ma suggestion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-Kectio&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBr3RYcjX8&feature=related Pas ma suggestion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EIIb9-2L0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqgsI2lVEjc&feature=related Les deux fac,ons, l'une apres l'autre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6Bx8gMVxY Se defiler completement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLDnkJUHS24 Amities, Stewart. PS pour faire Dowland se retourner dans sa tombe: huit mains sur une seule guitarre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJcvexjtGg&feature=related -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Valery Sauvage Sent: 20 September 2011 13:20 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [LUTE] My Lord Chamberlain Another try : Une autre tentative... [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hudZxUzNNo Val. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hudZxUzNNo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [3]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ [4]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-Kectio&feature=related 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBW1-Kectio&feature=related 3. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ 4. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
