Another good thing about gut.  I never seem to have that problem with 
gut strings.

ed

At 10:00 AM 1/2/2012, William Samson wrote:
>    It strikes me that these problems are the result of having long
>    pegboxes and stretchy strings.  In my experience of using it, gut has
>    much less stretch than nylgut (or nylon for that matter) or the
>    overspun basses that we use nowadays - so this probably wasn't nearly
>    as much of a problem for the old ones as it is for us.
>
>    It does make me wonder, though, if it's worth considering lutes with
>    two pegboxes ( somewhat extended basses) for 10c  and up.  This would
>    give a shorter (7c or 8c) main pegbox meaning there's less likelihood
>    of the strings stretching between the nut and the peg and a second
>    advantage for ourselves is that the lute case would be a couple of
>    inches shallower and hence easier to pack on planes, trains and so on.
>
>    Bill
>
>    See
>    [1]http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/jan-molenaer-a-young-man
>    -and-woman-making-music  for what I'm talking about.
>    From: Herbert Ward <[email protected]>
>    To: [email protected]
>    Sent: Monday, 2 January 2012, 6:49
>    Subject: [LUTE] Non-stretchy pegbox leaders.
>    We had a discussion similar to this three years ago
>    (Dec 7 2008).  However, I'd like to revisit the subject with
>    my question rephrased to focus more closely on my problem.
>    Stretching of strings between the nut and the peg is causing
>    me severe difficulty in tuning -- I can turn the peg
>    90 or 120 degrees with no response in the pitch.
>    Lubricating the nut is of course a possibility.
>    But I'd also like to try replacing the portion of the string
>    between nut and peg with a leader of some material which
>        (a) does not stretch,
>        (b) can be tied securely and easily to the string,
>        (c) will not slip on the peg,
>        (d) will not damage anything,
>        (e) is strong enough, and
>        (f) is readily available.
>    Does anyone have experience in this?
>    To get on or off this list see list information at
>    [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>    --
>
>References
>
>    1. 
> http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/jan-molenaer-a-young-man-and-woman-making-music
>    2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



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