Oh dear, I suddenly realized, maybe in ye oulde times they were painted into 
the paintings. 
Perhaps fraude is a thing of the past too!

Lex
Op 6 feb 2012, om 09:40 heeft William Samson het volgende geschreven:

>   Makes me wonder if all these harps, vielles, symphonies, gitterns,
>   citoles, lutes, nakers and sundrie wind instruments weren't
>   photoshopped into the paintings in recent times by early instrument
>   manufacturers?
> 
>   Bill
> 
>   [Is this how conspiracy theories start?]
>   From: John Lenti <[email protected]>
>   To: "[email protected] Net" <[email protected]>
>   Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012, 8:08
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
>     The way it's described here, it sounds like a vast conspiracy to
>     discredit instrumental medieval music. If so, let's be thankful it
>   was
>     one perpetrated by tweedy music critics for a very serious magazine
>     with a limited readership, which I suppose is why Sequentia, the
>   Boston
>     Camerata, Ensemble PAN, Ensemble Alcatraz, the Dufay Collective,
>     Ensemble Unicorn and many, many others have since done wonderful, if
>     sometimes a little weird, work and instrumental students at early
>   music
>     programs still spend at least a semester hawanging on musty old
>     hurdy-gurdies, vielles and gothic harps, struggling through Ars
>     Subtilior music while their singer friends mispronounce old French or
>     fail to get the rhythms of Landini ballate. To think it might all
>   have
>     been brought to nought, but thank goodness we mostly rely on critics
>     for nice quotes to put in our press packets, grouse a little bit when
>     they savage us, and otherwise view most of them as grumpy eunuchs.
>     Regarding the ethics of music criticism, I'd be interested to see if
>   we
>     could have a bit more conflict of interest and get more serious
>     musicians, hopefully better writers than I, to write criticism, and
>   if
>     it would make the field more vibrant. Nobody faults Schumann or
>     Berlioz, two of the most readable critics of the nineteenth century,
>     for their conflicts of interest, do they? Schumann had it right about
>     Chopin and Brahms, huh?
>> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:35:21 -0800
>> To: [1][email protected]
>> From: [2][email protected]
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>> 
>>> While I am also a great admirer of Page's work, I am a little
>     incensed
>>> that a reviewer admits to deliberately panning commercial
>     recordings
>>> with the intent to advance one point of view. Ethics?
>> 
>> Would you be incensed by a reviewer who panned Herbert von
>   Karajan's
>     recordings of Bach because the critic's "one point of view" was that
>     Bach should be played with attention to historical performance
>     practice? Or a reviewer who admitted that in the 1970's he had
>     deliberately conveyed the message to buy the period-instrument
>     recordings of Bach's cantatas by Harnoncourt and Leonhardt and "leave
>     the rest" (modern-instrument performances by Richter and Rilling and
>     whoever)?
>> 
>> Or, closer to home on this list, is it wrong for a critic to opine
>     that lute recordings on instruments built like modern guitars are not
>     the ones to buy?
>> 
>> Critics are paid to convey information and make judgments. If a
>     critic writing for a publication about early music has reached a
>     conclusion that voices-only performance is "correct," and that any
>     instruments make it as wrong as Karajan's Brandenburgs, it isn't
>     unethical for that viewpoint to inform his writing--indeed, how could
>     he possibly put it aside and pretend he didn't think the performances
>     with instruments are historically wrong (just as you might conclude,
>   if
>     the instruments were saxophones)? You might find his viewpoint wrong
>   or
>     overly limited, and maybe you're right. But it isn't unethical for a
>     critic to approach his work with his own ideas.
>> 
>> The potential ethical problems stem from the small-world nature of
>     the early music community, where the prominent performers and
>   scholars
>     all know each other, and cronyism, or the reverse, is always a
>   problem.
>     When I was review editor for the LSA quarterly, I told some folks
>   (all
>     of them on this list, I think) that there were ethical problems
>   because
>     they were performers writing about other performers or publishers
>     writing about other publishers ("competition" in common parlance),
>     making for inherent conflict of interest. I don't think anyone had
>   ever
>     brought it up before, and while the (soon-to-be former) reviewers
>     themselves seemed to understand, or at least accepted, my insistence
>   on
>     avoiding systemic conflict of interest, the responses I got from the
>     LSA officialdom was much the same response I would have gotten if I'd
>     said only Martians could write reviews for the Q. And maybe they were
>     right: perhaps if the community is small enough, you have to put up
>     with conflic!
>> t of interest if you want a pool of reviewers.
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