Is this possibly the origin of the verbal expression, "Downe in ye dompes"? T > Bernd sent me the following (I don't think it got to the whole list): > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:51 +0100 > To: "Leonard Williams" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes > > I have only 2 dumps and thought them to be quite humpty-dumpty, but > read this: > > > ** > > Dump. > A type of instrumental piece occurring in English sources between > about 1540 and 1640. Some 20 examples are known, more than half of > them for lute and most of the remainder for keyboard. The word is of > uncertain derivation. In the 16th century it denoted mental perplexity > or a state of melancholy. The musical dump was variously described as > 'solemn and still', 'deploring' and 'doleful'; there is some evidence > to suggest that it was the English equivalent of the French > déploration or tombeau, a piece composed in memory of a recently > deceased person. > > 16 dumps are listed in Ward (1951): all are anonymous except for two > by John Johnson. A few more are included in the catalogue in Lumsden, > among them a relatively ambitious work in the Marsh Lutebook (IRL-Dm > Z.3.2.13) labelled 'Dump philli' (ed. in Ward, 1992, ii, no.4; the > piece is unlikely to be by either Philip van Wilder or Peter Philips > as was formerly thought). The earliest known dump, My Lady Careys > Dompe (in GB-Lbl Roy.App.58; MB, lxvi, 1995, no.37), is familiar as an > early example of idiomatic keyboard writing. It is written over an > ostinato bass, a simple alternation of tonic and dominant (TTDD). Most > other dumps share this type of construction, using similar bass > patterns (DTDT, TTDT) or standard grounds such as the bergamasca, > passamezzo antico and romanesca. Some later examples have different > formal schemes, such as The Irishe Dumpe in the Fitzwilliam Virginal > Book (ed. J.A. Fuller Maitland and W.B. Squire, Leipzig, 1899/R, rev. > 2/1979-80 by B. Winogron, no.179), which is a simply harmonized melody > of three strains. An isolated late example is An Irish Dump, an > instrumental tune printed in Smollet Holden's A Collection of Old > Established Irish Slow and Quick Tunes (Dublin, c1807) and reproduced > in Grove5; Beethoven arranged it for voice and piano trio, to words by > Joanna Baillie, in his collection of 25 Irish songs woo152 no.8 > (London and Edinburgh, 1814). > > Bibliography > J.M. Ward: 'The "Dolfull Domps"', JAMS, iv (1951), 111-21 > > D. Lumsden: The Sources of English Lute Music, 1540-1620 (diss., U. of > Cambridge, 1955) > > J. Caldwell: English Keyboard Music Before the Nineteenth Century > (Oxford, 1973) > > J.(M.) Ward: Commentary to The Dublin Virginal Manuscript (London, > 1983) > > J.M. Ward: Music for Elizabethan Lutes (Oxford, 1992) > > Alan Brown > > > > > *** > > best wishes > Bernd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leonard Williams" <[email protected]> > To: "Bernd Haegemann" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes > > > > Bernd-- > > Nothing from Grove's--or else I didn't notice the citation. > > > > Leonard > > > > On 2/8/12 3:43 PM, "Bernd Haegemann" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Dear Leonard, > >> > >> I suppose someone sent you the article from Grove's dictionary? > >> > >> best wishes > >> Bernd > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Leonard Williams" <[email protected]> > >> To: "Lute List" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:49 AM > >> Subject: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes > >> > >> > >>> What can the collective wisdom share about a style of > >>> composition > >>> called down(e) or dump? I have four of these: two from Holmes > >>> (ff. 12, 94) and two from Marsh (ff. 124, 426). Questions: Are > >>> they basically divisions on a ground? Does one follow a strict > >>> rhythm with them? > >>> I enjoy playing (in some cases simply attempting) these. > >>> Are there > >>> others, perhaps by different names/titles? > >>> > >>> Thanks and regards, > >>> Leonard Williams > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at > >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > >
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