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-----Message d'origine----- De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Sauvage Valéry Envoyé : vendredi 1 juin 2012 20:19 À : 'Lute List' Objet : [LUTE] Re: Calatas Yes you're right, there is a note in "Le Luth et sa Musique" from 1957 (CNRS editions) by G. Thibault about an early italian ms (from around 1501-1505 ?) with a very short Calata f. 52-53. It is said it is probably the earliest lute Ms, before Capirola... Here is the modern transcription included in the book... Valéry -----Message d'origine----- De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Rockford Mjos Envoyé : vendredi 1 juin 2012 17:05 À : Monica Hall Cc : Lutelist Objet : [LUTE] Re: Calatas I believe there is also a Calata in the Thibault Ms. -- R On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Monica Hall wrote: > That is useful, but are there any later example from the end of the > 16th century? > > MOnica > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. J. Ness" > <[email protected]> > To: "Monica Hall" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Calatas > > >> Marco dall'Aquila #24 ("D'una cosa spagnuola")/Francesco #45 >> (Ricercar) has >> the calata cantus firmus running though it. It's so early perhaps >> it's a basse danse. See >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/lapptr.html >> >> The piece is probably by Marco, since even the Francesco version has >> the Marco Motive. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hall" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "Lutelist" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:34 PM >> Subject: [LUTE] Calatas >> >> >>> Montesardo and Costanza include pieces with the title "Calata". >>> Montesardo's seems to be in common time and just repeats the >>> formula >>> I IV V. Costanza's is actually described as "di Fiorenza" >>> and is >>> 6/4 time and has a rather odd harmonic scheme - it starts in a >>> major >>> key and ends in a minor key. Millioni (1627) also has a Calata in >>> D >>> major and 3/4 time. >>> >>> >>> >>> According to my rather out of date Harvard dictionary the Calata >>> is a >>> 16th century dance and Dalza is the only source of examples. >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know of any other sources of Calatas in the >>> intervening >>> period. It seems strange that it should suddenly have resurfaced >>> after such a long period. >>> >>> >>> >>> regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Monica >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > --
