Hi, all,
   There seems to be a new generation of lutes and baroque guitars from
   Mid-East or a similar company.  The exterior seems to be more finished
   and "authentic", at least to judge by the photos, and the price is
   about double.  They also credit Zachary Taylor with the designs.  Does
   anyone have experience of these?
   Best to all,
   Chris.

   On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Toby <[1][email protected]> wrote:

   On 07/31/2012 03:25 PM, A.J. Padilla MD wrote:

     As I recall, over the years there have been several threads about
     the
     Pakistani lutes, all pretty much negative, essentially to the effect
     that
     you need all new strings, have to change the action by altering the
     fingerboard and/or bridge and/or nut, and tolerate a thick,
     poorly-made
     soundboard, they're ok.

     That's all quite fair.  I bought one from eBay years ago.  It was
     playable,
     and made sound.  It reminded me of one of those cheap ukuleles that
     you
     can pick up at a gift shop in Hawaii.  It did enough to let me know
     whether I wanted to pursue playing on a lute.  In the end I decided
     to stick with a retuned classical guitar because I found it
     difficult
     to go back and forth between the two, due to the great difference in
     spacing between the strings.


     If you can get into the lute archives, the stuff is there.
     I have no personal experience with those instruments, however.
     Note that the Lute Society (in the UK) has a list of luthiers both
     in Europe
     and N America. I would think that the LSA (Lute Society of America)
     has a
     similar list.
     Do you perchance have a firstborn child, or an extra gonad, or
     perhaps a
     kidney you might want to offer for a "real" lute?
     Al Padilla
     -----Original Message-----
     From: [2][email protected]
     [mailto:[3][email protected]] On Behalf
     Of Bruno Fournier
     Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:06 PM
     To: William Samson
     Cc: Jim Ammeson; [4][email protected]
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: My First Lute
         I would suggest you try and rent one from a local lutenist, or
     perhaps
         check with the university music faculty if there would be one
     available
         on loan.
         A
         regards
         A
         Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
         Montreal Canada
         A
         A
         On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, William Samson
         <[1][5][email protected]>  wrote:
           A  A A difficult one, Jim. A Most lutes are built to order for
     a
           customer -
           A  A unfortunate because the customer doesn't get a chance to
     try it
           before
           A  A committing to buy it!
           A  A There are, however, some off-the-peg lutes available. A
     Closest
           to your
           A  A price range are the lutes built (in Pakistan??) for the
     Early
           Music
           A  A Shop in England
           A
           A
     [1][2][6]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-em
     s
           -8-cours
           A  A e-renaissance-lute A  I have recently seen and tried one
     of
           these and
           A  A found it to play very well. A I don't know if similar
     lutes are
           A  A available in the US but would be surprised if they
     aren't.
           A  A The other possibility is the second-hand market, but
     you're in
           the lap
           A  A of the gods, there.
           A  A Good luck in your quest!
           A  A Bill
           A  A From: Jim Ammeson<[3][7][email protected]>
           A  A To:
     "[4][8][email protected]"<[5][9][email protected]>
           A  A Sent: Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 17:31
           A  A Subject: [LUTE] My First Lute
         A  A  A So, I've been considering buying a lute for a few years
     now,
         but I've
         A  A  A had trouble finding places I can really try playing one
     or many
         A  A people
         A  A  A I can talk to about them. A (Lutes are a bit of a niche
     thing,
         I
         A  A know.)
         A  A  A A lutenist at the local renaissance faire suggested this
     list,
         so I
         A  A  A thought I'd post.
         A  A  A So, I'll just explain my situation, right now:
         A  A  A I've been playing classical guitar for about 5 years. A
     I play
         lots of
         A  A  A baroque and renaissance music, love the stuff. A I'd
     really
         like to
         A  A try
         A  A  A playing a lute or two before deciding if I want to make
     the
         A  A investment
         A  A  A in buying one. A As of right now, I don't have much over
     $500
         to spend
         A  A  A (I know that's not probably enough for one that's really
     worth
         A  A having,
         A  A  A unless I get a good price on a used one or something),
     but I'm
         A  A  A *willing* to spend more, just don't have it *now*. A
     (I'm a
         college
         A  A  A student, nuff said?)
         A  A  A I live in the Chicago area, and have asked around if
     there's
         anyplace
         A  A  A in the area whatsoever that makes lutes, and have tried
     looking
         A  A online,
         A  A  A but haven't found anything. A I've asked around at
     renaissance
         faires,
         A  A  A as well, and, again, just was directed here by one
     lutenist.
         A  A  A So, any advice as to what a beginning lutenist should
     do?
         A Where to
         A  A go
         A  A  A to try a lute for the first time and see if it is really
         something
         A  A for
         A  A  A him? A I've been thinking an 8 course lute would be good
     for
         the
         A  A pieces
         A  A  A I play to play...Bach and Dowland and the like? A Any
     general
         advice
         A  A is
         A  A  A also appreciated.
         A  A  A -Jim
         A  A  A --
         A  A To get on or off this list see list information at
           A  A
     [2][6][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
           A  A --
           References
           A  A 1.

     [7][11]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-
     8-co
           urse-renaissance-lute
           A  A 2.
     [8][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
         --
         A
         Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
         A
         [9][13]www.estavel.org
         A
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     References
         1. mailto:[14][email protected]
         2.
     [15]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-c
     ours
         3. mailto:[16][email protected]
         4. mailto:[17][email protected]
         5. mailto:[18][email protected]
         6. [19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
         7.
     [20]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-c
     ourse-renais
     sance-lute
         8. [21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
         9. [22]http://www.estavel.org/

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  22. http://www.estavel.org/

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