I bought a Pakistani lute about 7 years ago.  Waste of money.  Not playable.
It was only a month before I went ahead and bought a real lute.

Maybe they've gotten better since then ....


On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, A.J. Padilla MD wrote:

> As I recall, over the years there have been several threads about the
> Pakistani lutes, all pretty much negative, essentially to the effect that
> you need all new strings, have to change the action by altering the
> fingerboard and/or bridge and/or nut, and tolerate a thick, poorly-made
> soundboard, they're ok.
> If you can get into the lute archives, the stuff is there.
> I have no personal experience with those instruments, however.
> Note that the Lute Society (in the UK) has a list of luthiers both in Europe
> and N America. I would think that the LSA (Lute Society of America) has a
> similar list.
> Do you perchance have a firstborn child, or an extra gonad, or perhaps a
> kidney you might want to offer for a "real" lute?
> Al Padilla
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Bruno Fournier
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:06 PM
> To: William Samson
> Cc: Jim Ammeson; [email protected]
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: My First Lute
>
>   I would suggest you try and rent one from a local lutenist, or perhaps
>   check with the university music faculty if there would be one available
>   on loan.
>
>   A
>
>   regards
>
>   A
>
>   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>
>   Montreal Canada
>
>   A
>
>   A
>
>   On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, William Samson
>   <[1][email protected]> wrote:
>
>     A  A A difficult one, Jim. A Most lutes are built to order for a
>     customer -
>     A  A unfortunate because the customer doesn't get a chance to try it
>     before
>     A  A committing to buy it!
>     A  A There are, however, some off-the-peg lutes available. A Closest
>     to your
>     A  A price range are the lutes built (in Pakistan??) for the Early
>     Music
>     A  A Shop in England
>     A
>     A [1][2]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems
>     -8-cours
>     A  A e-renaissance-lute A  I have recently seen and tried one of
>     these and
>     A  A found it to play very well. A I don't know if similar lutes are
>     A  A available in the US but would be surprised if they aren't.
>     A  A The other possibility is the second-hand market, but you're in
>     the lap
>     A  A of the gods, there.
>     A  A Good luck in your quest!
>     A  A Bill
>     A  A From: Jim Ammeson <[3][email protected]>
>     A  A To: "[4][email protected]" <[5][email protected]>
>     A  A Sent: Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 17:31
>     A  A Subject: [LUTE] My First Lute
>
>   A  A  A So, I've been considering buying a lute for a few years now,
>   but I've
>   A  A  A had trouble finding places I can really try playing one or many
>   A  A people
>   A  A  A I can talk to about them. A (Lutes are a bit of a niche thing,
>   I
>   A  A know.)
>   A  A  A A lutenist at the local renaissance faire suggested this list,
>   so I
>   A  A  A thought I'd post.
>   A  A  A So, I'll just explain my situation, right now:
>   A  A  A I've been playing classical guitar for about 5 years. A I play
>   lots of
>   A  A  A baroque and renaissance music, love the stuff. A I'd really
>   like to
>   A  A try
>   A  A  A playing a lute or two before deciding if I want to make the
>   A  A investment
>   A  A  A in buying one. A As of right now, I don't have much over $500
>   to spend
>   A  A  A (I know that's not probably enough for one that's really worth
>   A  A having,
>   A  A  A unless I get a good price on a used one or something), but I'm
>   A  A  A *willing* to spend more, just don't have it *now*. A (I'm a
>   college
>   A  A  A student, nuff said?)
>   A  A  A I live in the Chicago area, and have asked around if there's
>   anyplace
>   A  A  A in the area whatsoever that makes lutes, and have tried looking
>   A  A online,
>   A  A  A but haven't found anything. A I've asked around at renaissance
>   faires,
>   A  A  A as well, and, again, just was directed here by one lutenist.
>   A  A  A So, any advice as to what a beginning lutenist should do?
>   A Where to
>   A  A go
>   A  A  A to try a lute for the first time and see if it is really
>   something
>   A  A for
>   A  A  A him? A I've been thinking an 8 course lute would be good for
>   the
>   A  A pieces
>   A  A  A I play to play...Bach and Dowland and the like? A Any general
>   advice
>   A  A is
>   A  A  A also appreciated.
>   A  A  A -Jim
>   A  A  A --
>   A  A To get on or off this list see list information at
>
>     A  A [2][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>     A  A --
>     References
>     A  A 1.
>     [7]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-co
>     urse-renaissance-lute
>     A  A 2. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>   --
>
>   A
>
>   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>
>   A
>
>   [9]www.estavel.org
>
>   A
>
>   --
>
> References
>
>   1. mailto:[email protected]
>   2. http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-cours
>   3. mailto:[email protected]
>   4. mailto:[email protected]
>   5. mailto:[email protected]
>   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   7.
> http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-course-renais
> sance-lute
>   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   9. http://www.estavel.org/
>
>
>


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