Hello Joshua!

Congratulations on your first lute....

A personal opinion regarding the use of Oak.

firstly, and I think most important is the physical balance of the instrument... The neck and pegbox both need to be light! the weight of the instrument needs to be felt as being in the bowl as it sits on the knee in order to allow freedom of movement of the arms. Oak is a heavier wood than those woods typically found in historical neck cores, and therefore is not a good choice here for the neck. Also there is the question of tooling. The more traditional woods, unfigured sycamore or maple, Spanish cedar etc are not as hard as Oak and because they are also not as roughly grained, they tend to tool with greater precision. Now the strength of the neck really lies in the grain orientation anyway.... You don't want the neck grain to be horizontal or parallel with the strings like an archers bow, but exactly at 90 degrees to the strings or fingerboard . this gives the greatest strength with respect to the neck either taking a set in bending upwards, or downwards . Veneering the neck with ebony does I think give the neck a bit more strength here as well. I personally use Spanish Cedar for neck cores , it tools wonderfully, and is light! Remember have the neck grain as perfectly straight and perpendicular to the strings and fingerboard as possible. Now as for the pegbox, there are additional reasons in addition to the weight issues, for not using oak . There needs to be a relationship with respect to hardness between pegs and pegbox. if the pegbox is too dense and hard, it will slowly abrade and unevenly wear down the pegs themselves. This you don't want. You want the holes in the pegbox to slightly enlarge and bed nicely to the taper of the pegs as the instrument is used, remembering that you can always lightly re ream them if necessary, and in difficult situations , its always possible to plug a pegbox hole and then redrill it... This is much easier than turning a new peg!. If the pegs remain properly stable and round , being tapered, they simply set in the holes a little deeper as the pegbox holes wear in time. The pegs themselves, are usually made from a close grained and evenly dense wood (but not a wood thats abrasive and hard like ebony). You can use Rosewoods, Plum, Pear etc , or while you can use Oak, remember that its a more open grained wood than the ones I mentioned and is pretty coarsely grained..... tougher to get a really precise shape here. As far as bridges are concerned, historically they all seem to have been made of some form of fruitwood.... although perhaps you can use rosewood here, I prefer plum . its light and transmits sound from the string to the top admirably .
as I said, these are only personal opinions ....

best

Richard Lees



On 10/30/2012 3:09 PM, Joshua Horn wrote:
     Hi everyone,
    I'm giving a go at building my first lute. (A flat-back) I have a
    question though, I have a considerable amount of large pieces of dried
    Oak on my back porch. Would it work to use these to make the neck and
    peg box and maybe the bridge out of? I picked them up from a neighbor
    and I have had no use for them yet. They've just been sitting there for
    years, and I hate for them to go to waste.
    Josh

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