There are Calatas in the Thibault MS (BN, Paris, Rès. Vmd. Ms. 27) and I 
believe they are mentioned in 15th c. writings (cannot remember where). The 
calata de strabotti is probably based on a popular melody (a strambotto). 
Strabotti are very simple and archaic... in a good way. They are full of 
parallel fifths and other 'archaisms', and some have great melodies. I believe 
the texts that survive (I think it is 8 lines per strambotto) are just a theme 
from which many more verses were improvised. They are very much connected to 
the oral tradition.

Best,

Hector



On 19 Jan 2013, at 22:22, Monica Hall wrote:

> Yes - there is no Italian repertoire for the renaissance guitar at all
> really.   It would be nice to have one - so keep building.
> 
> Another interesting thing is that  as far as I have been able to discover
> there are no other calatas except Dalza's in the 16th century - does anyone
> know of any? - but
> the calata re-surfaces in some early 17th century Italian guitar
> books - notably
> those of Montesardo and Costanzo.
> 
> Monica
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smith" <[email protected]>
> To: "lute" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:08 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de Strombotti
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Monica. You've saved me search through HMB at any rate.
>> 
>> I suspect it's one of the  strombotti/ frottole somewhere in the
>> Tromboncino intabulations as are Poi che'l ciel and Poi che volse but he
>> doesn't do us the favor of naming it. It's certainly set up like a
>> frottole w/ its two sections and light approach.
>> 
>> While there are just _so_  many it is fun to search through them. Btw,
>> I've been setting some for lute and/or ren. guitar and they can fit very
>> nicely. It's a shame we don't have any extant guitar repertory from the
>> time so I've been trying to build one.
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Monica Hall wrote:
>> 
>> Well - Brown doesn't seem to say anything about it but my Harvard
>> Dictionary of Music describes  the Strambotto thus-
>> 
>> A verse form popular among Italian improvisers in the 15th century and
>> taken over into the repertory of the frottola.   It consists of a single
>> stanza of eight hendecasyllabic lines etc.........Musical settings often
>> have only two phrases each repeated four times in alternation....a
>> separate phrase for the final couplet may be included...
>> 
>> Perhaps Dalza's Calata is in the form of a strambotto...The Calata is an
>> early 16th century dance form.
>> 
>> Hope that information is of some use.
>> 
>> Monica
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smith" <[email protected]>
>> To: "lute" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:13 PM
>> Subject: [LUTE] Calata de Strombotti
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear folks,
>>> 
>>> In Dalza on 44v there's a Calata de strombotti. Could anyone tell me
>>> which strombotti this is? I'm afraid I don't have HMBrown's Instrumental
>>> Music before 1600 which would probably tell me.
>>> 
>>> My appreciation in advance,
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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