Thank you, Bill and Shawn!  I'd love to join your group.  Back in 1985
   I met Larry Brown of Cincinnati who manufactured lutes and also
   attended meetings of the Cincinnati Astronomical Society.  He also
   drove to my first LSA meeting at Oakland Univ of Michigan where I got
   to meet the formidable Barto, magnificent Pat Obrien, and gentlemanly
   scholar Sylvain Bergeron.  Even ate lunch with the lovely Gusta
   Goldschmidt who cracked us up with her jokes.  I was deeply impressed
   when I found that Larry, unlike most Cincinnatians, knew that
   "Betelgeuse" meant "armpit of the giant."

   But he scared me when he said that the lute is "the most difficult
   instrument to learn how to play badly."  That meant it is difficult to
   play and once you learn how, you may yet be a lousy player.  Only after
   watching Dr. Shoskes videos starting in 2009 and using a shoulder strap
   for the first time on my roll-out prone JCHoffman was I able to play it
   semi-comfortably.

   I've often wondered if my interest in astronomy might be a desire to
   seek a celestial escape route from this earth.  Could this be a desire
   held in common among lute folk?  Copied this while reading Rumi's 13th
   century "Spiritual Couplets" back in 1977:

   "The song of the spheres in their revolutions
   Is what men sing with lute and voice.

   As we are all members of Adam
   We have heard these melodies in Paradise.

   Though earth and water have cast their veil upon us
   We retain faint reminiscences of these heavenly Songs!

   But while we are thus shrouded by gross earthly veils
   How can the tones of the dancing spheres reach us?"

   Remarkable rhythm/meter, alliteration, and rhyme are missing from this
   English version, translated I believe by R.A Nicholson.  The original
   Persian, as recited (with her eyes closed) by the late ethereal angelic
   Dr. Annemarie Schimmel (d. 2001) was beyond mesmerizing and as
   unforgettable as she was.

   Mark Seifert





   From: Sean Smith <[email protected]>
   To: lute <[email protected]>
   Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:36 PM
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - astronomy analogy?
   G's and O's indeed. I remember how my lute hand coordination grew as I
   ground and polished my first 12" mirror. Just as I finished it (mid
   90s) Saturn and Jupiter were both visible in the early evening sky. My
   buddy (who had intruduced me to John Dobson for the ATM classes) and I
   had a great year setting up our scopes on street corners in San
   Francisco for the public. Constant lines half a dozen deep every Fri
   and Sat night. Fun? Educational? Rewarding? Oh, lordy.
   Now, how do we do that for lutes?
   Sean
   On Aug 11, 2013, at 11:27 AM, William Samson wrote:
     Gadzooks and odsbodikins (as we lute-playing chappies are wont to
     say)!  Do you think there's a case for an astro-lute breakaway group?
     I was curator of a public observatory in Dundee, Scotland for five
     years, before I retired.
     [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Observatory
     How many of us will be watching for Perseid meteors this evening?  .
   .
     . And perhaps playing our lutes?
     Bill
     From: Mark Seifert <[1][email protected]>
     To: Geoff Gaherty <[2][email protected]>; "[3][email protected]"
     <[4][email protected]>
     Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 17:12
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
       Dear Geoff Gaherty, et alia, et aliens
       Its so gratifying and exciting to encounter another
   astro-interested
       person, as I attempt email near the Julian Starfest here in
   southern
     CA
       (communications are spotty here).  The skies last night were
       breathtaking, stunning, in this very dried up rural region not far
     from
       Palomar Observatory.  Only 25 miles away is Bruce Lamb who makes
   the
       extreme instrument cases, so I took a couple of caseless lutes to
     him.
       He lives across the street from a 101 year old man who dwells and
       shuffles with his walker on a 5-acre dried up estate full of
   coyotes
       and gophers.  Bruce Lamb is amazing.  He once starred in a 5-year
     long
       TV show about do-it-yourself home improvements, but it went belly
   up
       during the switch from VHS to DVD.  He also has a big potbellied
   pig
       who does pirouettes for watermelon chunks.  I also met a little
   deer
       eared Chihuahua here named "Frijolita" or "bean."  Don't know when
     I'll
       get my lutes back because Bruce is very, very busy making extreme
     cases
       for musicians worldwide.  He's trying to connect with the Navy for
       lucrative contracts, but the Navy is so clueless it thinks plywood
   is
       eco-friendly when the truth is just the opposite--even currogated
       polypropylene is more eco-friendly than plywood.
       Thank you for writing in and sharing your website.
       Mark Seifert
       From: Geoff Gaherty <[2][5][email protected]>
       To: [3][6][email protected]
       Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:08 AM
       Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
       On 11/08/13 9:41 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote:
   > My main point is that true historical re-enactment is
   > not fantasy, but a desire to generate public awareness of our great
   > heritage.
       For a number of years, I was music director for Poculi Ludiquae
       Societas, the medieval drama society at the University of Toronto's
       Institute of Medieval Studies during the 1980s:
       [4]http://groups.chass.utoronto.ca/plspls/
       We were committed to meticulous historical research as well as
   lively
       performances.  My job was to select music appropriate to the time
   and
       culture of the plays being performed, and to provide suitable
     musicians
       to perform it.  We worked in very close association with the
       professional early music performers in Toronto, to everyone's
   mutual
       benefit.
       We used to cringe whenever anyone mentioned the Society for
   Creative
       Anachronism!
       Geoff
       -- Geoff Gaherty
       Foxmead Observatory
       Coldwater, Ontario, Canada
       [5]http://www.gaherty.ca/
       [6]http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/
       To get on or off this list see list information at
       [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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   References
     1. [7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Observatory
     2. mailto:[8][email protected]
     3. mailto:[9][email protected]
     4. [10]http://groups.chass.utoronto.ca/plspls/
     5. [11]http://www.gaherty.ca/
     6. [12]http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/
     7. [13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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   7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Observatory
   8. mailto:[email protected]
   9. mailto:[email protected]
  10. http://groups.chass.utoronto.ca/plspls/
  11. http://www.gaherty.ca/
  12. http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/
  13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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