On 04/03/2015 13:31, Gary R. Boye wrote:
Yes . . . I followed right along there and I went through this book
page-by-page in Rochester. Pesori, Pesori, Pesori . . .
To me clunky = amateurish (an Americanism, I guess).
Gary
I don't want to harp on too much about it and it all depends on what you
mean by 'amateurish' but the Lo Scrigno 'mixed tab' pieces don't seem to
be derivative, or plainly or crudely done - or whatever. They are so
scrambled that I don't think they could be reconstructed without the
person doing the reconstruction actually inventing a piece themselves.
And this is a publication with illustrations - not a personal MS. Surely
some sort of explanation could be given?
The problem, as is often the case lies with the note values and bar lines
which make very little sense. I guess this is partly because Pesori didn't
understand how to notate complex rhythms which are often a feature of the
repertoire and this may well have been compounded by the engravers - if this
was not Pesori himself, who had no idea what it was that he was engraving.
The music is no more likely to make sense because it appeared in print than
if it was in a manuscript. There are all sorts of imponderables. Even
some of Foscarini is largely guess work.
It may never be possible to reconstruct many of the pieces because they
simply didn't have the skills or tecchnical resources to produce accurate
work.
Quite a lot gets published today which leaves a lot to be desired.
Monica
Stuart
Some funny pictures in it though ;-)
Gary
On 3/4/2015 4:04 AM, WALSH STUART wrote:
Pesori not Pesaro, indeed...
The relationship of this book to other Pesaro tablatures is complex; I
hope to publish a web page with information on them soon. I visited
Rochester in November 2013 and moved these two tablatures and a few
other things up in the queue; it took them awhile but they came up in
January.
As for quality of music, well, it's Pesaro. I keep waiting for him to
find his voice and be more than historically interesting, but in vain
. . . But I wouldn't say it is unplayable, on the whole, just "clunky"
(to use a non-musicological term).
Gary
I think that, for example, some early Granata and Coriandoli might be
described as "clunky" (= meagre, thin, lacking!?) but Pesaro's mixed
tabs don't even offer the hope of being reconstructed to "clunky".
Here are a couple of pieces from Lo Scrigno Armonico:
http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/musicp2.jpg
http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/musicp3.jpg
I'm happy to be proved wrong. But it does seem very strange fare to
actually publish. I put up some pics from Lo Scrigno years ago:
http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Pesori/
Could it be that people bought the book because it looked impressive?
Stuart
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