Yes, Jean-Michel, like French "cannelle,", one meaning for "canella"(Venetian "canela") is "spigot" in Italian and Venetian dialect (these are Venetian dances). Or in general terms simply refers to a small cane, that is, canella regina = cinnamonabecause it looks like cane, drinking straw, swamp grass, etc., etc.). A 1546 description of the dance-song calls "Tocha tocha la canella" a cane dance, in which the men hold canes, "et dando a ciascun baloardo (?!) una canna in mano ad alta voce poi gli dicono tocca la canella," that is, they sing (first line of lyrics) "Tocha, tocha la chanella chio ti tocchera il tetton." It's risquA(c) methinks. Dr. Baloardo is a stock character in the comedia dell'arte.
On 05/01/15, jean-michel Catherinot j[1][email protected] [Fronimo_editor]<[2][email protected]> wrote: to be more "precise" the "cannelle" is in french the name of the tap of a barrel....could be the same in italian ! Le Vendredi 1 mai 2015 15h27, "Luca Manassero [3][email protected] [Fronimo_editor]" <[4][email protected]> a A(c)crit : Martin is absolutely correct: the ancient writing "tocha" stays for "tocca" (imperative, therefore "touch"). The best translation sounds therefore like "touch, touch the cinnamon"a| Luca Il giorno 01 maggio 2015 @ 13:49:22, Martin Shepherd [5][email protected] [Fronimo_editor] ([6][email protected]) ha scritto: I wonder whether in modern Italian it could be "tocca" - inwhich case various rather suggestive interpretations come to mind(with a cinnamon stick being understood as somethingphallic). Perhaps our Italian friends can enlightenus.... M On 01/05/2015 02:36, [7][email protected][Fronimo_editor] wrote: This is not the question about Fronimo editor, but Could someone help me to find the meaning of "Tocha Tocha lacanella" with which title dell'Aquila and Borrono wrote a piece. If it was Italian, "torch the cinnamon" could be the meaning but Iam not quite sure. Tomoko __________________________________________________________________ [8]Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirussoftware. [9]www.avast.com __._,_.___ __________________________________________________________________ Posted by: jean-michel Catherinot <j[10][email protected]> __________________________________________________________________ [11]Reply via web post a-c- [12]Reply to sender a-c- [13]Reply to group a-c- [14]Start a New Topic a-c- [15]Messages in this topic (4) [16]Visit Your Group * [17]New Members 2 [18]Yahoo! Groups a-c- [19]Privacy a-c- [20]Unsubscribe a-c- [21]Terms of Use . [stime=1430498596] [fpc.pl?ywarid=515FB27823A7407E&a=10001310322279&js=no&resp =img] __,_._,___ References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. mailto:[email protected] 8. http://www.avast.com/ 9. http://www.avast.com/ 10. mailto:[email protected] 11. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fronimo_editor/conversations/messages/945;_ylc=X3oDMTJvNjFxa3NjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BG1zZ0lkAzk0NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MzA0OTg1OTY-?act=reply&messageNum=945 12. mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BFronimo_editor%5D%20Re%3A%20Tocha%20Tocha%20la%20canella 13. mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BFronimo_editor%5D%20Re%3A%20Tocha%20Tocha%20la%20canella 14. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fronimo_editor/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaTZncmp0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDQ5ODU5Ng-- 15. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fronimo_editor/conversations/topics/942;_ylc=X3oDMTMyMWU3NGsyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BG1zZ0lkAzk0NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MzA0OTg1OTYEdHBjSWQDOTQy 16. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fronimo_editor/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlamsybzlrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDQ5ODU5Ng-- 17. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fronimo_editor/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYnRhcGI4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE0MzA0OTg1OTY- 18. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcmN0bWg1BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzg0NDE1MTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIzODY1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDMwNDk4NTk2 19. https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html 20. mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe 21. https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
