Ever notice how the discussions on this list always come back around to
   talking about gut? ;-)
   Chris
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

     At May 27, 2015, 11:58:43 AM, Michael Grant wrote:

   If if the seemingly non authentic appearance is sending you two leaning
   over the rails, Chuck tells me he can easily fit existing peg grips to
   the machined peg body.A If, on the other hand, you are experiencing GI
   disturbance for some other reason, then maybe a large garbage bag is in
   order.
   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Mayes, Joseph <[1][2][email protected]>
   wrote:
   Early - 19th C. - guitars were made with machines or friction pegs.
   Those made with machines were more expensive. If you use pegheads on
   one of these instruments, you have an expensive guitar masquerading as
   a cheap one. I'll join Sterling at the vomitorium.
   Joseph Mayes
   ________________________________________
   From: [2][3][email protected] <[3][4][email protected]>
   on
   behalf of Sterling Price <[4][5][email protected]>
   Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:02 AM
   To: Michael Grant
   Cc: LuteNet list
   Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [LUTE] Re: Pegheads on new lute
   If your lute has shitty, ill fitting pegs then PegHeads might be fine,
   but it seems that most lute builders know how to make pegs that work
   just great. When I see PegHeads on early guitars with six strings I
   seriously feel the need to throw up.
   Sterling
   Sent from my iPad
   On May 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Michael Grant
   <[5][6][email protected]>
   wrote:
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   > I had PegHeds (that is how the inventor and manufacturer spells his
   > product) installed on a 10 c Ren lute.A 19 PegHeds to replace tired,
   worn,
   > crappy wooden friction pegs that had broken off, actually started
   shearing
   > off under load.A The lute was used and I had just gotten it.A Chuck
   Herin,
   > the PegHed guy is, by pure luck, only about 2 hours from me here in
   South
   > Carolina.A I drove the instrument to him, he made very small bore
   changes
   > in the pegbox and installed them.A Here are before and after pics of
   the
   > lute's pegbox.A The PegHeds cost $30 a piece.A That adds up but
   what was it
   > costing me to have a lute with 1/2 of the broken pegs missing and so
   > unplayable, what would it have cost me to take it to a lute luthier
   and
   > have new friction pegs turned and installed and how long would that
   have
   > taken.A Then I would have been back to friction pegs.A Add both
   costs up
   > and the PegHeds were a no brainer!A I recommend them highly.
   >
   > Michael
   >
   > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Dan Winheld
   <[6][7][email protected]>
   wrote:
   >
   >> I am neither conventional nor wise, so I can only offer my own
   personal
   >> experience & opinions:
   >>
   >> Most people love them, I wouldn't pay $20 for a barrelful of them.
   But
   >> they are life saver on Orpharions; or any multi-string,
   double-course low
   >> tension wire strung instrument. For those instruments, and those
   >> instruments alone, I would consider them almost a necessity.
   >>
   >> They are nice on my Baroque lute student's 13 course instrument -
   but
   >> string changing is his problem!
   >> Hate them on my own 8A course, but I have adapted & gotten used to
   them-
   >> and that lute is so good I put up with them. The conventional but
   >> exquisitely fitted pegs on my Vihuela are a lot faster & easier than
   the
   >> Pegheads on my lute; I am used to the quick action of the 1 to 1
   "gear
   >> ratio" of no gears! String changes? Instant!
   >>
   >> No gears for me, thanks!
   >>
   >> Da
   >>
   >>
   >> On 5/26/2015 6:22 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:
   >>
   >>>A A I took delivery of a new lute this week that has Pegheads
   installed.
   >>>A A I've never been one for much authenticity, so this doesn't bug
   me at
   >>>A A all. All I can say is, where have they been all my lute life?
   I don't
   >>>A A know what I am going to do with all the extra time I have now.
   They
   >>> are
   >>>A A fantastic. The only single thing I miss is the simplicity of
   removing
   >>> a
   >>>A A string with conventional pegs, but to be able to just sit
   there and
   >>> put
   >>>A A your left hand up to easily tweak tuning feels miraculous to
   me.
   >>>A A I am curious what the conventional wisdom is on these.
   >>>
   >>>A A --
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
   >>> [7][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   >
   > --
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   > *Coastal Psychological Consulting, PA*
   > 74 Lodge Trail
   > Pawleys Island, SC 29585
   > [8]843.314.3263 Phone
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   >
   I had PegHeds (that is how the inventor and
   manufacturer spells his product) installed on a 10 c Ren lute.A 19
   PegHeds to replace tired, worn, crappy wooden friction pegs that had
   broken off, actually started shearing off under load.A The lute was
   used and I had just gotten it.A Chuck Herin, the PegHed guy is, by
   pure luck, only about 2 hours from me here in South Carolina.A I drove
   the instrument to him, he made very small bore changes in the pegbox
   and installed them.A Here are before and after pics of the lute's
   pegbox.A The PegHeds cost $30 a piece.A That adds up but what was it
   costing me to have a lute with 1/2 of the broken pegs missing and so
   unplayable, what would it have cost me to take it to a lute luthier and
   have new friction pegs turned and installed and how long would that
   have taken.A Then I would have been back to friction pegs.A Add both
   costs up and the PegHeds were a no brainer!A I recommend them
   highly.
   >> Michael
   class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Dan Winheld
   dir="ltr"><[9][email protected]"
   target="_blank">[12][10][email protected]>
   wrote:

     I am neither
     conventional nor wise, so I can only offer my own personal
     experience
     & opinions:
     >
     > Most people love them, I wouldn't pay $20 for a barrelful of
     them. But they are life saver on Orpharions; or any multi-string,
     double-course low tension wire strung instrument. For those
     instruments, and those instruments alone, I would consider them
     almost
     a necessity.
     >
     > They are nice on my Baroque lute student's 13 course instrument -
     but string changing is his problem!
     > Hate them on my own 8A course, but I have adapted & gotten used
     to them- and that lute is so good I put up with them. The
     conventional
     but exquisitely fitted pegs on my Vihuela are a lot faster & easier
     than the Pegheads on my lute; I am used to the quick action of the 1
     to
     1 "gear ratio" of no gears! String changes? Instant!
     >
     > No gears for me, thanks!
     >
     > Da

   >
   > On 5/26/2015 6:22 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:
   >

     >A A A I took delivery of a new lute this week that has Pegheads
     installed.
     >A A A I've never been one for much authenticity, so this
     doesn't bug me at
     >A A A all. All I can say is, where have they been all my lute life?
     I don't
     >A A A know what I am going to do with all the extra time I have
     now.
     They are
     >A A A fantastic. The only single thing I miss is the simplicity of
     removing a
     >A A A string with conventional pegs, but to be able to just sit
     there and put
     >A A A your left hand up to easily tweak tuning feels miraculous to
     me.
     >A A A I am curious what the conventional wisdom is on these.
     >
     >A A A --
     >
     >
     > To get on or off this list see list information at
     > [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html";
     target="_blank">[14][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/
     index.h
     tml
     >
     >

   >
   >
   >

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